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Old 29-03-2015, 20:47   #1
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Electric fence....

Hi all. I am thinking of getting a solar electric fence kit and installing it with the leads connected to the lifelines of my Irwin 30. What issues could I possibly have with this set up. Other option is to run a separate wire around the perimeter of the boat for this but I don't want it ugly just secure. Something along these lines: http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NTAwWDQyMg==/z/kOwAAOSwfcVUAGe2/$_1.JPG
Any thoughts...has anyone done this before?
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Old 29-03-2015, 20:53   #2
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Hi all. I am thinking of getting a solar electric fence kit and installing it with the leads connected to the lifelines of my Irwin 30. What issues could I possibly have with this set up. Other option is to run a separate wire around the perimeter of the boat for this but I don't want it ugly just secure. Something along these lines: http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NTAwWDQyMg==/z/kOwAAOSwfcVUAGe2/$_1.JPG
Any thoughts...has anyone done this before?
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I think it would really depend on wether you are trying to keep the cattle in the boat or out of the boat
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Old 29-03-2015, 20:56   #3
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HA HA...Actually trying to keep the animals at bay...no pun...Keep the jokes cummin
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Old 29-03-2015, 21:15   #4
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Let's see... A hot, electrified, uncoated, DC wire. NA you shouldn't have any problems with massive electrolysis.
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Re: Electric fence....

Sounds like a very bad idea to me.

While I am sensitive to the desire for some sailors to feel more secure on their boats, I do think the "electrified lifelines" idea is not good.
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It'll be great until one night, after a few beers, you decide to take a leak over the side.....
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Old 30-03-2015, 05:42   #7
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Re: Electric fence....

Been discussed here before so you should be able to find the thread.

My opinion: If a fiberglass boat then wont work. To zap someone you need a path to ground. Unless they are standing in a soggy old wooden boat or metal boat when they grab your lifelines it wont work. Have not field tested this theory so hook it up and let us know. ;-)
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Grew up in Nebraska. Lived on a ranch. Lots of experience with electric fences for livestock. This is not going to stop a determined thief. Slow him down a little. I suppose you might hope that he would yell out when first zapped by it, and alert you in the process. Of course, motion detectors would accomplish the same thing without the risk of zapping yourself or the local guardia when they come to visit your boat.

I just don't see it being worth the problems.
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Re: Electric fence....

Typically an electric fence controller maintains some voltage potential between the fence and the ground. When an animal that is grounded contacts the fence, they complete the circuit and *zap*. If you've had experience with electric fences then you know that if a vine grows up the post and contacts the fence that it is no longer able to maintain that potential and the fence stops working.

Between what two points/things are you trying to maintain potential? I suspect it would be a challenge to keep lifelines electrically isolated from the hull. Most boats take steps to try to keep the hull, and particularly any metal parts on it, electrically bonded to one another and at the same potential as the sea outside.
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Typically an electric fence controller maintains some voltage potential between the fence and the ground. When an animal that is grounded contacts the fence, they complete the circuit and *zap*...................
Yep. The "victim" would have to have one foot in the water or be in a metal boat for this to work. Then of course, there's the liability issue. If someone contacted your intentionally electrified boat and fell in the water and drowned, you could be in a heap of trouble.

Bottom line is; this is not a good idea.
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there is one place where a fence might be usefull............


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Re: Electric fence....

I'm not a cruiser, so I am not "out there." But if I felt so threatened that I felt the need to put an electrified fence around my home to keep bad people out, I'd move somewhere else. Especially if my home was as mobile as a sailboat.

And as previously mentioned, the potential corrosion problems have got to be enormous.
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Grew up in Nebraska. Lived on a ranch. Lots of experience with electric fences for livestock. This is not going to stop a determined thief. Slow him down a little. I suppose you might hope that he would yell out when first zapped by it, and alert you in the process. Of course, motion detectors would accomplish the same thing without the risk of zapping yourself or the local guardia when they come to visit your boat.

I just don't see it being worth the problems.

I tend to agree with this, just too many problems. Legal wise I think it might be about like booby trapping your front door. You would end up in jail paying for the "criminals" pain and suffering. I put criminal in quotation marks as I would say they haven't done anything just by touching your life lines, heck they may be there just to tell you your anchors dragging?
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I'm not a cruiser, so I am not "out there." But if I felt so threatened that I felt the need to put an electrified fence around my home to keep bad people out, I'd move somewhere else. Especially if my home was as mobile as a sailboat.

And as previously mentioned, the potential corrosion problems have got to be enormous.
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Re: Electric fence....

Hi, ok...point taken for the grounding part...never really thought this through I guess...as for moving...I cannot move. I own a school here in Mexico and I want to sail! I have to learn to live with my environmental issues...like thieves! On the flip side, it IS beautiful here!
How will a motion sensor work on a floating boat that has motion all the time? Any ideas about a laser beam detection system? I want to have something for when nobody is there...which is not too often...but it only takes one brief moment and BAM...
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