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Old 17-11-2007, 16:29   #16
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I don't have enough money to have "big" dreams, but...

My heart says Bristol Channel Cutter

My head (currently) likes the Cape Dory 36 for the extra space, much lower cost and potential fulfillment of the dream.
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Old 17-11-2007, 17:07   #17
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I'm clearly biased. I just ordered a new 57.

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That is cool that you ordered a NEW BAD ASS CAT!!! How much is she going to set you back? I guess if I ever run into you out there sailing you will be sailing past me

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Can I cheat by one foot and say the new Gunboat 66?...and cheat by one more foot and say the Lagoon 67?

I can tell you what I will never get...an aluminum boat. Ultimately, no paint sticks to aluminum and they sound like you are floating around in a metal dumpster.
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Very nice boats...but boy is that site a big pain rear to navigate! This trend of waiting for and having to watch a video before entering someones website is getting irritating. Did you hear that Gunboat?!

I have always like the lines of Hinckley's "picnic boats". So why are they not called lobster boats?...which is what they resemble.
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It is not a dream anymore I could not find my dreamboat after retiring 7 years ago and decided to have it designed and built and I am now sailing her , it is the FastCat 435 A Gunboat is very nice , actually a fantastic boat but i wanted it to be able to sail single handedly and a 42 to 45 ft cat is a good size both to live on and to handle by myself.
Also 2 king sized beds is enough for my cruises
Do you plan on manufacturing a larger AfricanCat?
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Old 18-11-2007, 05:21   #21
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Yes we also build the 525 ft cat in the New factory but will be extending it to 55 ft to get a bit more speed out of it , the weight will be less than 17000 LBS and electric retractable drives will be standard . The hull and deck will be built in basalt fibre with resin infused epoxy and the twaron impact protection system will be used in the hulls
The price for the first 5 is set to 1.200.000,00 euro all complete bleuwater cats
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We really like our C&C but could be happy with an Oyster. Not a big fan of exterior wood or Hinkley would be on that list. If our planned sailing was only east coast and caribbean then I would also add a Catana.
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Yes we also build the 525 ft cat in the New factory but will be extending it to 55 ft to get a bit more speed out of it , the weight will be less than 17000 LBS and electric retractable drives will be standard . The hull and deck will be built in basalt fibre with resin infused epoxy and the twaron impact protection system will be used in the hulls
The price for the first 5 is set to 1.200.000,00 euro all complete bleuwater cats
The 43 footer is 1.2M Euro? WOW that is alot of money for a 43 footer.

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Hello Keegan

the new 55 ft cat is 1.200.000 euro , the 435 is 650.000 both bleuwater equipped ready to sail around the world , the new 405 , ( 40.ft 6 inches will be priced around 500.000 euro ready to sail the world and that includes the following equipment list besides all the normal items

electronic
Sterling fast charger
Air Breeze wind generator masthead mounted 300 watt 24 volts
LCD TV screen connected to radar screen for large picture 26 inch
Dolby surround system multi system for world wide use
Multi region tv/fm antenna with mast bracket suitable for digital TV
Capi2 power distribution system
Active radar deflector detector
Raymarine GPS/plotter, radar 8" and 12 " color + interface to LCD screen
Watermaker 16 gallons per hour 24 volts manual
Victron 2500/100 inverter / charger .
Mobilert active overboard alarm system for 6 people type 7600
Davits aluminium with lines and blocks
Debug for engines or generator (against algae in diesel)
Autopilot self learning
Floscan digital fuel flow meter with total consumed diesel
1 x Solar panel 210 watt .

safety
Book Doctor on board
First Aid Kit (Extensive)
Outboard 2,3 hp 4 cycle
AIS system to monitor other shipping around
8 fenders 8 mooring lines 4 mooring lubbers
Lightweight rigid inflatable 10 ft long 4-5 persons
Safety outfit lifejackets safety harnesses life lines
Spare anchor (Rocna)15 kilos plus 10 meters chain and 50 meters line
Anchor bridle with stainless steel connecting plate
Life raft light weight for 6/8 pax

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Gennaker with lines and blocks 135 M2
Gennaker with lines and blocks 95 M2
removable bowprod with spectra waterstays 80 m2
Storm Jib with Velcro connection
Sea anchor/Drogue (for heavy winds)

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Side by side fridge freezer 200 L.
Freezer 50 gallons w. cooled in saloon seat
Extra gastank composite
Polycarbonate glasses 24 x
Nespresso coffee machine by Magimix
Dualit Toaster
Kitchen machine
Hardwood cutting board installed above dish rack
Light weight washing machine ( 3 K . )
Light weight set Dinnerware for 8
Nesting Pots and Pans (6)
Kitchenware including stainless steel knife set etc.
Set of cutlery for 8
Set of towels with name of boat embroidered

comfort
Nicro Fico solar vents 4 x
Strida folding bikes lightweight 2 x
3 sided outside cockpit enclosure with windows
Fitted cotton sheets for the beds 8 pieces 900 mm x 2200 mm
Comforters with covers for each bed
Pillows with pillow cases
Fitted cotton undersheets 4 x
Solar shades mounted on the outside of saloon
Outside matrasses 2 x 60 x 2.10 meters
Lexan scratch resistant, solarized,self cleaning windows
Lexan scratch resistant,portholes and hatches
Upgrade water tanks 700 litres total
Upgrade diesel tanks 600 litres total
Holders for 3 diving bottles



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After I got ALL the gear on my cat it added up to way less than 650 Euro and it points VERY well and is fast enough for me and faster than many in the same size range.

I do appreciate the hull construction technology that you are offering with Fast Cat 435 but I would not have wanted to spend several hundred more to get it for a boat that size. If I was going to spend more then I would want a bigger boat.

For me it is not just about top end speed.

Sounds like you are having no problem selling them. I hope you make crap loads of money

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A Dolphin is a very nice and reasonable performance oriented cat
I am glad you are happy with your boat , I would be to it is one of the better cats for cruising the world and I know it is a lot less than a FastCat
It has to be since it is built with hand lamination and polyester .
As is always the case we pay for less weight.
greetings and happy cruising , Hope we meet some day
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A Dolphin is a very nice and reasonable performance oriented cat
I am glad you are happy with your boat , I would be to it is one of the better cats for cruising the world and I know it is a lot less than a FastCat
It has to be since it is built with hand lamination and polyester .
As is always the case we pay for less weight.
greetings and happy cruising , Hope we meet some day
Dolphin uses vynelester where it counts.

Yes lightness costs money.

I am in the Caribbean this year so let me know if you are sailing around there.
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Very nice boats...but boy is that site a big pain rear to navigate! This trend of waiting for and having to watch a video before entering someones website is getting irritating. Did you hear that Gunboat?!

I have always like the lines of Hinckley's "picnic boats". So why are they not called lobster boats?...which is what they resemble.

I totally agree David!

Hinckley makes boats that are floating art but their website is an abomination. They make it so much work to finally find a boat you want to look at and then the number of actual easy to access photos they give you is limited. I hate the stupid intro videos and such. Just make the goodies easy to access and the site FAST. They clearly do not get this.

I also agree that their picnic boats basically are lobster boat type... but I guess when you see the interior of the Hinckley version it negates the entire concept that anyone would consider it related to any kind of "work boat". The quality and jaw dropping artistry of their joinery work leaves me glassy eyed.


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The Hylas 54, or Oyster 62. Mmmmm...
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Something like the now slightly old Tanton 45 Offshore. Nice monohull lines, good internal layout, freestanding rig with wishbones might be improved with rotating mast but principle is sound; ideally driven electrically using the sort of power technologies that probably won't realistic be available for another five to ten years!

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