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Old 26-12-2011, 14:40   #1
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Double Enders

Double enders are dear to my heart, and hopefully one day near as well. Most of my favorite boats (Baba 30, Hans Christian 33t, Westsail 32, Pacific Seacraft Crealock 37, etc.) feature this design trait. So it was in that vein that I asked Bob Perry to provide his thoughts on double enders for my website. If you're at all a fan of double enders or Bob Perry, I think you'll enjoy this article titled "Double Enders According to Perry": http://www.sailfarlivefree.com/2011/...rry-guest.html.
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Old 29-12-2011, 05:45   #2
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Like my girl?? well she is for sale! she will sail to windward in 12knots and I can do a slow walk to the bow and back with the tiller free and still sailing to the windward. built in 1927, NZ kauri timber
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Or perhaps my other girl not quite a double ender but close! sorry shes not for sale!
She loves a following sea she rises with glee as she surfs down the sea.......no pooped deck for my girl.
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Old 29-12-2011, 07:45   #4
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Re: Double enders

Heres ours

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Old 29-12-2011, 14:10   #5
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Re: Double enders

Some years ago and well before he died, I met Bill Crealock at a weekend boat show put on by Crusader Yachts, the then dealer for Pacific Seacraft in Annapolis. He was a true gentleman.

Bill made a short talk about the PSs that he designed (most of them). I remember him saying (and I paraphrase liberally): "Sometimes the stern of the boat has to act like the bow."

What he was saying of course and he went on to explain is that in heavy following seas a wide transom boat will catch the waves and be pushed sideways, sometimes broaching (been there done that- on a Perry designed boat no less). A canoe stern will not react as violently- it will "part the waves" to use Perry's words.

Actually I am not so fond of double enders for several reasons: aft boarding is almost impossible, they limit space aft and in the olden days were tough to build in wood.

But they sure are pretty.

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Double ender I past in San Blas, Panama the other day. Pretty sad.
Bob's article sure didn't have a lot positive to say about double enders other than they are good for marketing.
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Double ender I past in San Blas, Panama the other day. Pretty sad.
Bob's article sure didn't have a lot positive to say about double enders other than they are good for marketing.
That looks sad but I dont think we could blame the yacht for being on that reef!
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That looks sad but I dont think we could blame the yacht for being on that reef!
Pretty sure there was some human hand involved.
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Double ender I past in San Blas, Panama the other day. Pretty sad.
Wow, that is sad. Did you hear how it turned out? Did they get off the reef or was she pounded to pieces?
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Wow, that is sad. Did you hear how it turned out? Did they get off the reef or was she pounded to pieces?
All I heard was that he was singlehander and left for Panama City to see if he could work some salvage. You see an astounding number of boats on the reef in the San Blas,Panama- cruisers and commercial traders. But by the grace of God go I. Must be an insurance companies nightmare. I doubt this one is coming off in one piece. Been bowing hard the last 10 days.
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Yeah, mut be a lot of them we never hear about. I saw a big steel sailboat on the rocks a ways south of Cedros Island on the Baja coast. Reportedly was a single hander. His egg timer must have been broken!
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Re: Double enders

My 2 bits,(late) MY boat is a Prairie 32, double ender. Untill you sail one you cant possibly know how they do in any kind of sea way. The Prairie is very boyant in the stern and there is loads of room for stoage. You just have to place it right. Following seas? No problem. short steep seas? a bit of a hobbyhorse. can make the deck wet. Other wise she sails great and points into the wind quite well for her design. I all ways get to where Im going and have been in some very bad storms at sea.
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