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Old 11-10-2013, 05:49   #166
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Re: Does constant anchoring wear you down?

its funny. you sailboaters cannot backup.
i can handle a 130' long semi, with 3 articulations, and you cannot back up a stiff boat?

raku, you do not have a trailer. if you push the tiller, in forward or reverse, the boat will turn on the same side.
think like this:
if your turning around a channel marker, forward, and on the right side, then if you engage reverse and do not move the wheel or tiller, you will still circle the channel marker in the same direction, only backwards.
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Old 11-10-2013, 06:02   #167
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Re: Does constant anchoring wear you down?

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its funny. you sailboaters cannot backup.
i can handle a 130' long semi, with 3 articulations, and you cannot back up a stiff boat?

raku, you do not have a trailer. if you push the tiller, in forward or reverse, the boat will turn on the same side.
think like this:
if your turning around a channel marker, forward, and on the right side, then if you engage reverse and do not move the wheel or tiller, you will still circle the channel marker in the same direction, only backwards.
That's a good explanation

Scoobert, in fairness to sailors, many, maybe most sailboats do not back up straight. Dealing with prop walk and the phenomenon of steerage way can be very complicated. Boats with long keels can be actually impossible to back up at low speeds except around in circles -- regardless of what you do with the rudder. Backing up a 130' trailer is hard to, no doubt! I wouldn't want to try it, I'll tell you that. But it's a completely different set of skills.
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Old 11-10-2013, 06:03   #168
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Would you guys stop picking on the one person who has a boat that happens to steer differently than any boat I've ever heard of! :-)
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Old 11-10-2013, 06:05   #169
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Re: Does constant anchoring wear you down?

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Scoobert, Could you please post up a video of you reversing that rig?
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Old 11-10-2013, 06:06   #170
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That's a good explanation

Scoobert, in fairness to sailors, many, maybe most sailboats do not back up straight. Dealing with prop walk and the phenomenon of steerage way can be very complicated. Boats with long keels can be actually impossible to back up at low speeds except around in circles -- regardless of what you do with the rudder. Backing up a 130' trailer is hard to, no doubt! I wouldn't want to try it, I'll tell you that. But it's a completely different set of skills.

your right. i do not have a full keel.
this is my keel, but i don't know what it is called.


EDIT: i looked it up, i have a fin keel.
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Old 11-10-2013, 06:11   #171
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Scoobert, Could you please post up a video of you reversing that rig?
Cheers,
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i cannot, backing it up requires "all hands on deck"
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Old 11-10-2013, 06:18   #172
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Re: Does constant anchoring wear you down?

[QUOTE=scoobert;1361844]its funny. you sailboaters cannot backup.
i can handle a 130' long semi, with 3 articulations, and you cannot back up a stiff boat?
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But come on, be honest here... can you reverse a normal box trailer? I have to ask as I have a mate who is a B-Double driver here in Australia, and he asked me to reverse the caravan one day, he just can not do little trailers.
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Old 11-10-2013, 06:21   #173
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its funny. you sailboaters cannot backup.
i can handle a 130' long semi, with 3 articulations, and you cannot back up a stiff boat?
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But come on, be honest here... can you reverse a normal box trailer? I have to ask as I have a mate who is a B-Double driver here in Australia, and he asked me to reverse the caravan one day, he just can not do little trailers.

confession time:
i can't park the wife's impala in a parking lot.
i can parallel park it, but just not in a spot.
i always had a hard time backing up my jetski trailer too.
anything bigger then 16' and i am fine.
in fact people cannot figure out how i get my rig in my driveway.
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OK, now I know you are the real deal.

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your right. i do not have a full keel.
this is my keel, but i don't know what it is called.


EDIT: i looked it up, i have a fin keel.
Hard to tell from your photo, but does it look much like this one?
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Old 11-10-2013, 06:41   #176
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your right. i do not have a full keel.
this is my keel, but i don't know what it is called.

EDIT: i looked it up, i have a fin keel.
I'll back up a fin keel at speed and slide it into a slip even on a larger boat. I've got a 32' full keel. Some days you'd think I'd never pulled a boat into a slip before!
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Old 11-10-2013, 06:43   #177
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Hard to tell from your photo, but does it look much like this one?
if you look to the right of the top of the sawhorse on the left you can see light. it is a fin.
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Re: Does constant anchoring wear you down?

Sometimes the worst part of a busy anchorage isn't high winds, but no wind.
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Old 11-10-2013, 06:48   #179
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I'll back up a fin keel at speed and slide it into a slip even on a larger boat. I've got a 32' full keel. Some days you'd think I'd never pulled a boat into a slip before!

race boats are fun, huh?
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Old 11-10-2013, 06:56   #180
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Oh no, not again. It will not do so. Face backwards and push the tiller to starboard and the stern of the boat will go to port.

Coops.

Yes, of course it will! Unless you actually try it and get your head out of your ... vocabulary ... you'll never get it. Not my problem. I'm sure you don't need any help backing your boat into the slip, and you're having so much fun this way. No matter how much I explain it you will deliberately misinterpret it, so I'm not going to bother.

but really, if the slip is on the south side of the fairway, and you're backing up and facing the stern, and you push the tiller to the south, the boat will turn to the south and back right up into the slip. I think using NSEW is the best way to explain this -- to an open mind, anyway. The new students on the boat with us Sunday didn't stand around puffing themselves up because they understand port and starboard. They backed the boat up, and pushed the tiller to the south, and the stern of the boat turned south and right into the slip.

That's actually what mattered to them -- not a three day snit because someone didn't use "port and starboard," but getting the boat into the slip safely.
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