Cruisers Forum
 

Go Back   Cruisers & Sailing Forums > The Fleet > General Sailing Forum
Cruiser Wiki Click Here to Login
Register Vendors FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Log in

Reply
  This discussion is proudly sponsored by:
Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about their products on Cruisers Forums. Advertise Here
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Rate Thread Display Modes
Old 24-07-2013, 22:49   #1
Registered User

Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 13
Do Used Sailboats 27-30' Usually Come with their Trailer?

All of the sailboats I'm interested in they're far away. Closest one is 700+ miles away. I work a man camp type shift so I get a couple weeks off at a time and I don't have a problem driving my truck and picking up a 5 tonner but there's usually no mentions of a trailer in listings. Most sailboats I'm looking at are saltwater boats even though I prefer freshwater boats and I'm familiarizing myself with saltwater boats. Now I'm really taking this slow and I don't make any calls because my purchase time frame is in Novemberish. Does anyone have any experience with yachtworld/sailboat listings etc. with tralers? I may even just pay to ship it out here because its splitting hairs cost wise for me to drive out with my truck. Is it easy to buy a used sailboat trailer for a 27-30 footer?

For the record i'd fly out and inspect it first.
slik pak is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 25-07-2013, 05:58   #2
Registered User
 
denverd0n's Avatar

Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Tampa, FL
Posts: 5,015
Images: 6
Re: Do used sailboats 27-30' usually come with their trailer?

That's at the very top end of "trailerable," so most boats in that range will probably not have a trailer. Further, in that size range, you are likely going to have to have a trailer custom built, if the seller doesn't already have one.
denverd0n is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 25-07-2013, 06:38   #3
Senior Cruiser
 
skipmac's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: 29° 49.16’ N 82° 25.82’ W
Boat: Pearson 422
Posts: 16,306
Re: Do used sailboats 27-30' usually come with their trailer?

Quote:
Originally Posted by denverd0n View Post
That's at the very top end of "trailerable," so most boats in that range will probably not have a trailer. Further, in that size range, you are likely going to have to have a trailer custom built, if the seller doesn't already have one.
That pretty much says it. For sailboats, once you get much bigger than 22-23' range trailers are rare. One problem is the larger boats generally have larger, deeper, heavier keels and cannot be launched from a regular boat ramp. Even in the 22-23' range most boats will have some kind of lifting keel, centerboard or similar to fit a trailer and boat ramp.

You would probably have to custom build a trailer or get a heavy duty, flatbed trailer and build a cradle on the trailer to hold the boat. Friend of mine did that and it worked out quite well. Plus he now has a heavy duty trailer for all sorts of other hauling.

Paying a hauler to move the boat may be more expensive than you think. Search some of the previous threads on the forum for what others have paid. Cost me over $1000 plus boat yard fees to move my boat 80 miles but it's 42' and a wide/tall load that required a chase car and special permits.
__________________
The water is always bluer on the other side of the ocean.
Sometimes it's necessary to state the obvious for the benefit of the oblivious.
Rust is the poor man's Loctite.
skipmac is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 25-07-2013, 06:39   #4
Registered User
 
Sailmonkey's Avatar

Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Houston
Boat: ‘01 Catana 401
Posts: 9,626
What type of 27-30' boats are you looking at? The stripped down race versions will likely live on a trailer and only be launched to sail. But most cruising boats either are too wide to trailer normally, too heavy, or have never been on a trailer a day in their lives.
Sailmonkey is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 25-07-2013, 19:55   #5
Registered User
 
Stumpkiller's Avatar

Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Upstate NY
Boat: Pearson 31-2
Posts: 25
Re: Do Used Sailboats 27-30' Usually Come with their Trailer?

Other than a Sea Pearl 28 I don't recall ever seeing a 27 to 30 ft sailboat with trailer.
__________________
Charlie P. ('87 Pearson 31-2 #80 CATNAP)
Stumpkiller is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 25-07-2013, 20:43   #6
Registered User

Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 13
Re: Do Used Sailboats 27-30' Usually Come with their Trailer?

Then how are sailboats transported?
slik pak is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 25-07-2013, 20:45   #7
Registered User

Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 13
Re: Do used sailboats 27-30' usually come with their trailer?

Quote:
Originally Posted by skipmac View Post
That pretty much says it. For sailboats, once you get much bigger than 22-23' range trailers are rare. One problem is the larger boats generally have larger, deeper, heavier keels and cannot be launched from a regular boat ramp. Even in the 22-23' range most boats will have some kind of lifting keel, centerboard or similar to fit a trailer and boat ramp.

You would probably have to custom build a trailer or get a heavy duty, flatbed trailer and build a cradle on the trailer to hold the boat. Friend of mine did that and it worked out quite well. Plus he now has a heavy duty trailer for all sorts of other hauling.

Paying a hauler to move the boat may be more expensive than you think. Search some of the previous threads on the forum for what others have paid. Cost me over $1000 plus boat yard fees to move my boat 80 miles but it's 42' and a wide/tall load that required a chase car and special permits.
Well I've been quoted 3k for a full transportation which is a lot but I don't know in terms of diesel fuel how much cheaper it would be to drive my truck 1400+ miles round trip. I know I would save money but i'd save time if I paid someone else to do it.
slik pak is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 25-07-2013, 20:47   #8
Registered User

Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 13
Re: Do Used Sailboats 27-30' Usually Come with their Trailer?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sailmonkey View Post
What type of 27-30' boats are you looking at? The stripped down race versions will likely live on a trailer and only be launched to sail. But most cruising boats either are too wide to trailer normally, too heavy, or have never been on a trailer a day in their lives.
Well I've got a 2011 GMC Sierra Duramax/Alison combo and I'ts max recommended trailer weight is like 23,700 or something. I know with trucks it's how much it can safely brake and I've pulled 29000#'s with a weaker Duramax before. That trailer did have it's own brakes though.

Probably a Catalina 27-30 foot cruiser. I don't think width is an issue because ive seen twin engine 33 foot cabin cruisers at the 2 square mile lake I would be taking it too.
slik pak is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 25-07-2013, 20:51   #9
Registered User

Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 13
Re: Do Used Sailboats 27-30' Usually Come with their Trailer?


Here is what I was picturing. looks to be a 27 footer (I think)
slik pak is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 25-07-2013, 21:12   #10
Registered User

Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Vancouver, BC
Posts: 382
Re: Do Used Sailboats 27-30' Usually Come with their Trailer?

Many "pocket cruisers" have trailers. I've seen quite a few ads for Nor'seas and Danas with trailers. They are in the 27 foot range. I've read towing that kind of weight though takes some skill. If its only a one-time move I'd surely look seriously at a marine transport specialist and save yourself the headache...
terminalcitygrl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 25-07-2013, 21:21   #11
Moderator Emeritus
 
roverhi's Avatar

Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Carlsbad, CA
Boat: 1976 Sabre 28-2
Posts: 7,505
Send a message via Yahoo to roverhi
Re: Do Used Sailboats 27-30' Usually Come with their Trailer?

Occasionally you'll see a Norsea 28 offered with a trailer. That's about as large a boat that you'll find with a trailer. Great sea boats that you could take almost anywhere.

Have seen other largish boats with trailers but 8' max width for normal road use is a big limiter. Go wider than that and all sorts of regulations and additional costs kick in. As others have said, racing boats like the Hobie 33 have retractable keels and quite often have a trailer. I wouldn't even think about living aboard one as they have no head, minimal furniture, creature comforts and headroom.
__________________
Peter O.
'Ae'a, Pearson 35
'Ms American Pie', Sabre 28 Mark II
roverhi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 25-07-2013, 21:27   #12
Registered User

Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 13
Re: Do Used Sailboats 27-30' Usually Come with their Trailer?

Quote:
Originally Posted by terminalcitygrl View Post
Many "pocket cruisers" have trailers. I've seen quite a few ads for Nor'seas and Danas with trailers. They are in the 27 foot range. I've read towing that kind of weight though takes some skill. If its only a one-time move I'd surely look seriously at a marine transport specialist and save yourself the headache...
Well the interim lake is a 2 square mile lake until I move back to the ozarks I would have to take out in the winter (Colorado) and store it so even though I could pay a transport I would still need a trailer to pull it out of the water and store it. Thank you guys for your help. I did find a company that builds custom trailers.
slik pak is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 25-07-2013, 22:07   #13
Registered User

Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 1,065
Re: Do Used Sailboats 27-30' Usually Come with their Trailer?

TWO mile square lake? How much of that postage stamp is useable even with a swing keel?

May I suggest an alternative, take that approx. $6,000 (cost to haul to CO and from CO when you move to the Ozarks) and instead use that money to travel to the boat which is located on a more sizeable body of water. I reckon accessibility is desirable yet it makes so much more sense to place the boat where it will be more functional.

BTW: I would let someone else make the haul. It makes fiscal sense when you include exposure to potential liability. Unless you are looking to the adventure of pulling a boat all that way, in that case it doesn't have to make sense since that isn't what it's about.
Richard5 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 25-07-2013, 23:57   #14
Registered User
 
CPseudonym's Avatar

Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Northern California
Boat: Owens
Posts: 204
I believe Clipper Marine made a 30 or 32 foot by 8 foot wide trailerable. They are not common to find but when you do they'll most likely be on a trailer.

Good luck in your quest.
__________________
Insert witty line here

Craig
CPseudonym is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 26-07-2013, 05:35   #15
Registered User
 
Sailmonkey's Avatar

Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Houston
Boat: ‘01 Catana 401
Posts: 9,626
Quote:
Originally Posted by slik pak View Post
Here is what I was picturing. looks to be a 27 footer (I think)
Yes, putting a Catalina 27 on a trailer is feasible, though not done on a regular basis. From sailboat data the cat27 is 8.83' wide. Over width by a hair! Then comes the launch problem. You will typically need to crane off and on the trailer. It's not impossible to put a monster tongue extension or dolly on the trailer to launch, but not usually done.

This just isn't what you do more than once a year. It may work for you, but like you've found you're going to need a custom trailer.
Sailmonkey is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Newbie Needs Help Figuring Out Cost to Restore Annapolis 30' (Rhodes) mvelimir Construction, Maintenance & Refit 7 23-03-2013 01:17
Catalina 30' CE Cert 'A' storyinframes Monohull Sailboats 4 02-02-2012 18:43
For Sale: Tartan 27 - Parting Out skagroovy Classifieds Archive 0 28-09-2011 23:06
For Sale: Nor'Sea 27 Sailboat LittleFlower Classifieds Archive 25 23-09-2011 11:30
Baba 30 vs Willard 30 with Mariner 31 / 32 (Just to Confuse Things) Architeuthis Monohull Sailboats 17 29-08-2011 20:19

Advertise Here


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 13:22.


Google+
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Social Knowledge Networks
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.

ShowCase vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.