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Old 13-05-2014, 14:12   #631
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Never had that problem sailing single-hulled sailboats over two decades. Will admit it felt I exercised upon returning to land or berth.
This is for weavis who thinks folks on monohulls can get hurt.
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Back when I was just a whipper snapper the first thing my Dad would say when he took me sailing was 'one hand for yourself, one hand for the ship'.
My dad when he came on my boat said
"%#@K this for a game of soldiers, water is for ducks" and went down the pub.

He didnt like boats.
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This is for weavis who thinks folks on monohulls can get hurt.
Good Lord!! #2
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So if you had a purchase budget of USD 1 million..... What would you buy and why?
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I'd buy one of those Danish trimarans, no kidding. Dragonfly 32 or 35 or whatever their best model is.
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NO NO NO.

Haven't you been paying attention. Folks on monohulls are not allowed to get hurt moving around on their boats. Only folks on multihulls can get hurt and that is because they are old and weak and out of shape.
I was wondering if it had anything to do with the well known fact that multihull boats don't spill half your drink on the deck repeatedly...



on a serious note, anyone know what percentage of liveaboard size catamarans have hydraulic steering? I really prefer the feel of solid linkage between rudder and helm.
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Back when I was just a whipper snapper the first thing my Dad would say when he took me sailing was 'one hand for yourself, one hand for the ship'.

If you have problems with your judgement maybe you need to get a little more experience judging how boats move in a seaway.
True...I definitely need more miles under my belt actually sailing.. and less time hove to and down below drinking coffee...
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True...I definitely need more miles under my belt actually sailing.. and less time hove to and down below drinking coffee...



Boatie, is it even possible to heave to properly in the average cat in rough conditions? Do you think it would be wise, given that it would put the boat beam on to the seas at least some of the time?
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Boatie, is it even possible to heave to properly in the average cat in rough conditions? Do you think it would be wise, given that it would put the boat beam on to the seas at least some of the time?
Well the 440 seemed happy enough till the reef failed.. after that she got a bit bouncier as she started fore reaching.. the lack of tension on the main meant she fell off further than she was.
Prior to that I had the main slightly off centre toward the windward side so the force kept her nose quartering the sea's and the bit of jib stopped her going to far.. took an hour sitting up there tweaking before I was happy and headed below to the warmth and dry of the saloon and stood the watch there..
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True...I definitely need more miles under my belt actually sailing.. and less time hove to and down below drinking coffee...
Sad to say I am to old and weak to climb down the stairs to go below.

But when I am on deck with the sails up I have noticed that there is not always a direct relationship between wind speed and wave size, and more importantly wave period. If big waves have a long period and the wind and wave direction are constant on many points of sail it is trivial to judge how to walk around the boat with out falling.

On the other hand even a fifteen knot wind out of the North crossing the Gulf Stream with say five or six foot square waves will often cause someone to have problems walking around a boat.

My objection to your post was the claim that at X wind speed and Y wave height you could not safely move around on a catamaran. There is a lot more to it than that. Some boats, monohull or multihull, can be very uncomfortable in certain sea states and not others.

As you have posted before you work delivering boats and often don't have the option of altering course, slowing down, or even simply staying in port waiting for better weather. You have to go out and get somewhere even if it is uncomfortable.

I have no doubt you have spent more time than you liked in uncomfortable conditions while I was sitting in my salon at anchor watching a beautiful sunset. But that does not negate the fact that if you take any boat, monohull or multihull, out in bad weather on a course you can not change it will be uncomfortable, something you do for a living and I avoid.

This may be why we disagree about how easy it is to move around on multihulls. If I am in bad weather I reef or lower the main and use a working jib (or bare poles, but I have only done that twice) to run from the weather instead of beating into it. I also feel very comfortable surfing down waves. Been surfing since I was in junior highschool and drove race boats in SORC races in following seas.

We just have very different obligations about when and where the boats we are on have to be.
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Sad to say I am to old and weak to climb down the stairs to go below.
Im loving the chats..... sarcasm is my favourite method of communication.
Boatie is not immune to it either..
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If I am in bad weather I reef or lower the main and use a working jib (or bare poles, but I have only done that twice) to run from the weather instead of beating into it.
Oh man... Let me show you how it feels when you have bare poles, upwind in force 8-9
engines on and taking turns puking in short hard seas.........
Ive only done it once but it lasted for 15 hours...........
I remembered it for 26 years.
Poor old boatie..... he has to do it regular...... like taking brooklax..

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Boatie, is it even possible to heave to properly in the average cat in rough conditions? Do you think it would be wise, given that it would put the boat beam on to the seas at least some of the time?
Its certainly possible on mine
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Well the 440 seemed happy enough till the reef failed..

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The thing is I have a great big square top which means I had to supersize my Stackpack. Running bare poles for me includes more sail area than some one designs have. On the other hand I doubt that reef would fail.
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