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Old 12-05-2014, 20:05   #601
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This thread has got seriously sad..
Gonna go do a MENSA test... just to make sure I'VE SOME BRAIN CELLS LEFT....
ROFL!!@!@!@!@!@!@!@!@!@!@
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Old 12-05-2014, 20:08   #602
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You are right they were taken off their vessel in the early hours of 3rd May. Seems like old news here being so close to the event.

Five people rescued from sinking catamaran off south-east Queensland coast - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

I certainly don't consider Lagoons the best of cats in a water ingress situation. They are one of the heavier designs with lots of machinery and meaning that they will float relatively low in the water compared with many of the Australian/NZ designed sandwich construction catamarans.

From others recent unfortunate experiences we also know there is some difficulty inspecting hulls with their internal liners with Lagoons.

Polux, you are certainly researching cats well and have highlighted some of the issues with the production cats. Surely you must be doing this as you may well be considering a cat purchase yourself in the future??

You seem to avoid a response to this question.
Those round white baggy things did not sink! So that's good news.
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Re: Do Multihullers Ever go Back?

I think that cat really lies low in the water. Looks like wet suit sailing to me!
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I'd say it comes from lack of coordination.
I's say you are wrong. Here is a repost of my comment:

"One thing I seldom see mentioned is that while I do get the occasional ding when sailing my cat it seems like every time I go out on a friend's monohull I wind up with cuts, scrapes, bumps, and bruises and I can not figure out where they came from. There is lots more room to walk up to fore deck and lots more room up there. I seldom go below on my cat when sailing since the cockpit and salon are undivided and there is a huge area out of the sun to sit or lie down.

Not saying I do not like monohulls but for an old guy like me a cat is much easier on my weak tired body."

Are you seriously trying to claim there is not a lot more room in the cockpit/salon on a cat than on a monohull?

Are you seriously trying to claim there is not a lot more room on the deck of a cat going to the foredeck?

Are you seriously trying to claim there is not a lot more room on the foredeck of a cat than a monohull?

Are you seriously trying to claim cats sail much flatter than monohulls making it easier to stand up and walk?
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I think that cat really lies low in the water. Looks like wet suit sailing to me!

At least you don't need a SCUBA tank
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At least you don't need a SCUBA tank
Mask and snorkel only.
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I's say you are wrong. Here is a repost of my comment:

"One thing I seldom see mentioned is that while I do get the occasional ding when sailing my cat it seems like every time I go out on a friend's monohull I wind up with cuts, scrapes, bumps, and bruises and I can not figure out where they came from. There is lots more room to walk up to fore deck and lots more room up there. I seldom go below on my cat when sailing since the cockpit and salon are undivided and there is a huge area out of the sun to sit or lie down.

Not saying I do not like monohulls but for an old guy like me a cat is much easier on my weak tired body."
Bollox

Are you seriously trying to claim there is not a lot more room in the cockpit/salon on a cat than on a monohull?
No.. you can definitely be thrown further..

Are you seriously trying to claim there is not a lot more room on the deck of a cat going to the foredeck?
No.. but there's a lot less grab rails...

Are you seriously trying to claim there is not a lot more room on the foredeck of a cat than a monohull?
If your counting the netting... No..!!

Are you seriously trying to claim cats sail much flatter than monohulls making it easier to stand up and walk?
Flatter Yes.. Easier..?? debatable...
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Old 12-05-2014, 21:19   #608
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Oh this is great tonight!!! Great great great!!
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Flatter Yes.. Easier..?? debatable...
OK lets debate it.

Starting off with a lot bigger foredeck that is flatter and wider decks walking to the foredeck that are flatter.

Things can get just as bumpy on a monohull as a multihull.

Maybe you have a different definition of easier than I do. Waiting for a response.
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Mask and snorkel only.
Cant get to this sunk monohull with a mask and snorkel.

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Here is another about to make the move.

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"One thing I seldom see mentioned is that while I do get the occasional ding when sailing my cat it seems like every time I go out on a friend's monohull I wind up with cuts, scrapes, bumps, and bruises and I can not figure out where they came from.
Never had that problem sailing single-hulled sailboats over two decades. Will admit it felt I exercised upon returning to land or berth.
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Cardow,

My view also.

I personally dislike the all timber finishes in many vessels. Prefer a gel coated finish for its easy low maintaince and easy to clean. Looking at a timber finish inside says work to me when there is enough with the systems of most vessels.

One of the pluses for the Voyage cats is their durable low maint internal finish and clearly the charter makers like this also. You might comment about the finish in your vessel
Today on modern boats, even very expensive boats, specially performance cruisers, the wooden look is being substituted by composite surfaces (white ones). Anyway on those, and for many years, the wood was already a very light composite material.

What it seems to me is that in the US there are almost no new monohull performance cruisers and the ones that like that type of boat moved to catamarans (along with the majority that just wants a bigger condo) and have a more modern taste. They are a lot less conservative and have a more "modern taste" compared with the one from the typical monohull client that when having a new boat will want the Catalina or Hunter wooden look and will say that on the old days, when a lot more heavy wood was used, the boat interiors looked a lot better.

In Europe there are lots of new performance monohulls and the taste is different. On these very expensive boats the interior is not made of wood composite to be cheaper, quite the contrary, it is a question of design and taste.







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Re: Do Multihullers Ever go Back?

Personally, the sterile white gel coat finish does not appeal to me.
I like a mix of surfaces, all easy clean, but not the 'straight out of the mold' look.
European design is going very minimalist in performance boats to keep the weight down these days.
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