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Old 09-05-2014, 13:18   #346
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Re: Do Multihullers Ever go Back?

They have to slow down to drink their Inglenook Cabernet Sauvignon.

Real sailors do not drink Inglenook Cabernet Sauvignon.
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Old 09-05-2014, 13:36   #347
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...The Dean 44 is an extremely heavy boat ...
Hummm, extremely heavy? the boat in question, a Dean aero 44 weights 10000kg, a Lagoon 440 12000kg, a Fountain Pajot 44 (Helia) 10800kg, a Leoparad 44 12615kg. Extremely heavy? you call extremely heavy to a cat that is about 2000kg lighter than the best selling 44cats

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.. The Dean 44 (has) a very low bridgedeck. If there was such a thing as a weight/bridgedeck ratio, that boat would be the highest among all catamarans. They are well-known as pounding machines and not upwind sailors, as Mr. Baldwin discovered..
A very low bridge deck? are you sure about that? Lets' compare it with the best selling cats: The first is a Dean aero 44 the second a Lagoon, the third a Fountain Pajot and the last a Leopard:










I don't think so and it seems that the owners of the Dean catamarans have not the same opinion you have regarding their boats and the bridge deck clearance or upwind performance. I guess they have experience with their boats and other cats:

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I own a dean aero 40 catamaran and have sailed thousands and thousands of ocean miles in her, including 5500 miles in the Southern Ocean. .. they ... have massive bridge deck clearance and sail to windward better than a cruising mono.....
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I was based in the Virgin Islands for 5 years and used to toast the larger charter Leopards & Lagoons daily. ...
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To compare the Dean 44 to 44CC's design is like comparing a Morgan OI 46 with a Swan 45.
I agree, it does not make sense to compare a Dean 44 with performance cats because it is not one but it make all the sense to compare it with the huge majority the cats out there that are not performance cats but condo cats like Lagoon, Fountain Pajot and Leopard. Those are the cats most cats sailors sail (by a vast majority) and the ones that most ex-monohull sailors have.

Regarding those I am quite sure the Dean is not only faster but will pound a lot less upwind offering also a good interior space. Funny you have a so low opinion of this type of cats (well-known as pounding machines). I don't have such a low opinion, they are good in doing what they are designed for: Offering lots of space and an acceptable performance. And lots of them are used as long range cruisers, circumnavigate and cross oceans. You have just to go to the ARC list and see what are among the multihulls the brand that has more boats crossing the Atlantic: Lagoons, 4 or 5 times or more than any other brand and most of the others are the same type too.

Off course, they have disadvantages too, has you have pointed out a bit exaggeratedly.
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Old 09-05-2014, 13:47   #348
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Re: Do Multihullers Ever go Back?

keeping with the absurdity that my original question has morphed into, this is a picture of me single handing in a force 6 off the coast of Patagonia





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Old 09-05-2014, 13:49   #349
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keeping with the absurdity that my original question has morphed into, this is a picture of me single handing in a force 6 off the coast of Patagonia





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Old 09-05-2014, 14:13   #350
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This is us Irish dancing in a force 6..



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Old 09-05-2014, 14:18   #351
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Weavis - how many does that sleep? 60?
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This is us Irish dancing in a force 6..



No way is that a Force 6... unless its the make of a PPB...
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No way is that a Force 6... unless its the make of a PPB...
LOL of course it isnt....... I was continuing the silly photo slot.. I have no idea who it is.....
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Re: Do Multihullers Ever go Back?

So to answer the OP's question.

Yes I would go back to a monohull but not as my boat of choice for full time living.

There.
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why thank you weavis!
BREVITY IS THE SOUL OF WIT AFTER ALL.
but please do understand I have been thoroughly entertained reading these posts.
it appears to me that multi's rock....there will always be those of differing opinions of course.
and by those naysayers the small jaunt of 1000 ocean miles from the Abacos to Connecticut that I am preparing to take will be riddled with an uncomfortable motion, constant pounding, wave slap, and I will probably end up floating upside down off Hatteras somewhere but in the end it was my choice and despite my years of sailing many different kinds of boats I have come to the conclusion that they are ALL uncomfortable in their own way but there is magic in the sea that apparently keeps calling us back. It is also healthy to have strong opinions. So my thanks to all for a tremendous amount of information and your time taken to contribute.
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Re: Do Multihullers Ever go Back?

I am extremely dubious of what has been said, in leiu that material worldly things always leads to disappointment in spirit.

Nay I fall back into Dantes outer circle of hell, where the poets and philosophers talk in circles, but fail to realize that ideals and worldly goods fails to satisfy.

Only love will set you free.

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Enjoy the ride amigo...
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it matters not what you have..
Its how you use it and enjoy it..
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Old 09-05-2014, 15:25   #358
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Enjoy the ride amigo...
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I like the looks of this cat, although you'll never catch me owning one:

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I like the looks of this cat, although you'll never catch me owning one:

Hmm... Id have a Shannon 53 and enjoy it. Id prefer the cat above but either would do.

At the two million mark, i'd say they would have ironed out enough wrinkles in both the mono and the Cat...
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