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27-05-2010, 17:11
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cruiser
Join Date: May 2010
Location: SF Bay Area; Former Annapolis and MA Liveaboard.
Boat: Looking and saving for my next...mid-atlantic coast
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Do Boats Cause Cancer ?
Forgetting the sun for a moment...consider:
Plastic and fiberglass/epoxy outgassing
Solvents, varnishes, and paints
Plastic water tanks and hoses
Water from strange marinas
Diesel fuel and engine lubes
Electrical systems
God knows what is in the bilge
God knows what is in the bay outside my porthole.
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27-05-2010, 17:19
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CF Adviser
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: sausalito
Boat: 14 meter sloop
Posts: 7,260
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I'm a lot more worried about the sun. Even with a permanent bimini installed, I get way too much of it reflecting off the water.
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27-05-2010, 17:21
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 1,379
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Yes.
Also. Everything causes cancer.
That is all.
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27-05-2010, 17:22
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Maine
Boat: Defever 41 "Bear Holiday"
Posts: 158
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The biggest danger is the dihydrogen monoxide - deadly and all around most boats. Very dangerous!
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27-05-2010, 17:28
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Fernandina Beach, FL
Boat: Island Packet 380 - Delta Blues
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Here's my take: Yes, there are substances and compounds from which vessels are made that cause cancer. But in the overall scheme of things, it's a much more healthy environment than sitting in a closed living room, breathing stale air and watching bad television.
Besides, the benefits of boating in relieving stress and getting in sync with nature probably does more to extend life than the prospects of cancer shortens it. I think sailors generally have better immunity systems to ward off cancer.
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27-05-2010, 17:41
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Edgewater, MD
Boat: Coronado 25
Posts: 315
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Is this a serious question? If so, time to sell the boat my friend. I have a sterile, plastic bubble I'll sell you for dirt-cheap. Only used once by a little boy with an immune deficiency.
Boats cause a lot of things-
-Poor fiscal conditions
-Pregnancy
-An urge to consume rum
-A sudden renewed appreciation for sunsets and sunrises
I could go on, but you probably get the point by now.
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27-05-2010, 17:44
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Fernandina Beach, FL
Boat: Island Packet 380 - Delta Blues
Posts: 353
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Actually, I think beer is the the cause of more pregnancies than boats.
Quote:
Originally Posted by BubbleHeadMd
Is this a serious question? If so, time to sell the boat my friend. I have a sterile, plastic bubble I'll sell you for dirt-cheap. Only used once by a little boy with an immune deficiency.
Boats cause a lot of things-
-Poor fiscal conditions
-Pregnancy
-An urge to consume rum
-A sudden renewed appreciation for sunsets and sunrises
I could go on, but you probably get the point by now.
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27-05-2010, 17:51
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 240
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Some equipment on boats produces TONS of the stuff. Yikes!
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27-05-2010, 18:01
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Oromocto, New Brunswick
Boat: 1976 Alberg 37 Yawl hull 172
Posts: 395
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Quote:
Originally Posted by hanschristian38
The biggest danger is the dihydrogen monoxide - deadly and all around most boats. Very dangerous!
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That's a good point actually. I couldn't be arsed to check the statistics, but I'm sure it's killed more sailors than anything else. At least 3 lost just this weekend:
Latitude 38 - 'Lectronic Latitude
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27-05-2010, 18:15
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cruiser
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Tampa to New York
Boat: Morgan 33 OutIsland, Magic and 33' offshore scott design "Cutting Edge"
Posts: 1,594
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I'm amongst the crowd that believes todays cancer epidemic is due to the way dietary fats are processed. Hydrogenated fats kill. They cause cancer, heart disease and diabetes. They collect in cell walls and arteries and cellular respiration suffers drastically creating an atmosphere where cancer thrives. Throw out the margerine and shortening, replace them with unheated highly unsaturated fats high in omega 3s and lignans and your chances of developing tumors will drop drastically.
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27-05-2010, 18:15
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2003
Boat: Dragonfly 1000 trimaran
Posts: 7,159
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The bottom line?
Life causes death.
Gotta avoid life at all costs.
You first...
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27-05-2010, 18:16
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cruiser
Join Date: May 2010
Location: SF Bay Area; Former Annapolis and MA Liveaboard.
Boat: Looking and saving for my next...mid-atlantic coast
Posts: 6,197
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Err...didn't say it caused the most deaths...just cancer...
The prototype stories I am running into all the time:
- Recent retiree or close to retirement...fixing his/her boat up for a few years...then ditches cruising plans due to serious illness.
- Cruisers out there for a short while who have to give up the life due to serious illness, sell their boat in some port and return home.
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27-05-2010, 18:21
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Moderator... short for Cat Wrangler
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: San Francisco
Boat: Cal 28 Flush Deck
Posts: 5,559
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ya think maybe that retirees are... well ya know... older... and older people get... well ya know... sick? So I am not thinkin so much the boat... more like life kills you and the boat is just where you happen to be, as a cruiser, when it happens.
I bet the statistics for RVers is pretty much the same...
And for that matter adult communities often have a large population who mysteriously come up ill...
And the short answer is EVERYTHING causes cancer. well. except for chocolate and red wine.
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27-05-2010, 18:24
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Moderator Emeritus
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Gabriola Island & Victoria, British Columbia
Boat: Cooper 416 Honeysuckle
Posts: 6,933
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It ain't the water it's the lack of air and heat that gets 'em.
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27-05-2010, 18:27
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cruiser
Join Date: May 2010
Location: SF Bay Area; Former Annapolis and MA Liveaboard.
Boat: Looking and saving for my next...mid-atlantic coast
Posts: 6,197
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Ahh very sad and somewhat true...but i think there is a real push over the line pattern here we are not seeing. Personally, I think its diesel fuel with outgassing second.
Hmmm...would be interesting to see if certain boats are leaders. For example Tayana's and Westsail - maybe because they have wooden decks that contain dioxins and strange oils.
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