Cruisers Forum
 

Go Back   Cruisers & Sailing Forums > The Fleet > General Sailing Forum
Cruiser Wiki Click Here to Login
Register Vendors FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Log in

View Poll Results: Are Multi-Hulls Right For The America's Cup?
Yes 21 61.76%
No 13 38.24%
Voters: 34. You may not vote on this poll

Reply
  This discussion is proudly sponsored by:
Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about their products on Cruisers Forums. Advertise Here
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Rate Thread Display Modes
Old 12-02-2012, 07:59   #1
Registered User

Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: San Bruno
Boat: Real, Nice, 35-41'
Posts: 3
Did The America's Cup Make a Mistake Shifting to Multi-Hulls?

Is Anyone Really Interested in an "Extreme", Cup Series Anyway?
kimonojoe is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-02-2012, 08:03   #2
Registered User

Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: San Bruno
Boat: Real, Nice, 35-41'
Posts: 3
Did The America's Cup Make a Mistake Shifting to Multi-Hulls?

Is Anyone Really Interested in an "Extreme", Cup Series Anyway?
kimonojoe is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-02-2012, 08:10   #3
Senior Cruiser
 
GordMay's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Thunder Bay, Ontario - 48-29N x 89-20W
Boat: (Cruiser Living On Dirt)
Posts: 49,448
Images: 241
Re: Did The America's Cup Make a Mistake Shifting to Multi-Hulls?

Greetings and welcome aboard the CF, kimonojoe.

There's no need for duplicate posts/poll.
Aren't all races somewhat extreme?
__________________
Gord May
"If you didn't have the time or money to do it right in the first place, when will you get the time/$ to fix it?"



GordMay is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 12-02-2012, 08:52   #4
Senior Cruiser
 
skipmac's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: 29° 49.16’ N 82° 25.82’ W
Boat: Pearson 422
Posts: 16,306
Re: Did The America's Cup Make a Mistake Shifting to Multi-Hulls?

Leading edge racing of any type is interesting but I think the America's cup should have stuck to monohulls and perhaps set up an separate race for multis.

I think the America's Cup also should go back to boats that can leave the dock and sail or not sink even if the winds are less than 5 kts and more than 15 kts.
__________________
The water is always bluer on the other side of the ocean.
Sometimes it's necessary to state the obvious for the benefit of the oblivious.
Rust is the poor man's Loctite.
skipmac is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-02-2012, 09:06   #5
Registered User
 
Cheechako's Avatar

Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Skagit City, WA
Posts: 25,518
Re: Did The America's Cup Make a Mistake Shifting to Multi-Hulls?

Quote:
Originally Posted by skipmac View Post
Leading edge racing of any type is interesting but I think the America's cup should have stuck to monohulls and perhaps set up an separate race for multis.

I think the America's Cup also should go back to boats that can leave the dock and sail or not sink even if the winds are less than 5 kts and more than 15 kts.
I have to agree that the boats ought to be built to certain level of proper seamanship. I'm all for testing new materials, but when a boat breaks in half in 5 knots of wind... well.... that's BS! I watched the racing on TV a couple of months ago and the multi's were just as exciting as the mono's used to be. The old measurement rule was BS... just created a bunch of ugly wierd boats. I liked the races I watched because they werent as long as the AC competition I've seen. I have trouble finding out when they are going to be televised... hard to keep up with it.
__________________
"I spent most of my money on Booze, Broads and Boats. The rest I wasted" - Elmore Leonard











Cheechako is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-02-2012, 09:08   #6
Registered User
 
dennisjay's Avatar

Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Fernandina Beach, FL
Boat: Island Packet 380 - Delta Blues
Posts: 353
Images: 1
Re: Did The America's Cup Make a Mistake Shifting to Multi-Hulls?

The cup used to about competition among millionaires. Now it's among billionaires. Denis Connors started cheapening the competition by turning the cup into Nascar with mega corporate sponsorships. The multis have further cheapened the race.

Sad.
__________________
- Dennis Jay
Annapolis, MD • USA

https://sailingdeltablues.com/
dennisjay is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-02-2012, 09:10   #7
Registered User
 
James S's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: May 2008
Location: We're technically refugees from our home in Yemen now living in Lebenon
Boat: 1978 CT48
Posts: 5,964
Images: 139
Re: Did The America's Cup Make a Mistake Shifting to Multi-Hulls?

IMO Americas Cup, like Formula One, is the top of the game..I think its good for the sport and ultimately sailing in general, to make the most of any and all technologies that make these boats better...what ever better means.

We can have other races for other boats as required.
__________________
James
S/V Arctic Lady
I love my boat, I can't afford not to!
James S is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-02-2012, 09:16   #8
Registered User
 
Therapy's Avatar

Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: W Florida
Boat: Still have the 33yo Jon boat. But now a CATAMARAN. Nice little 18' Bay Cat.
Posts: 7,086
Images: 4
Re: Did The America's Cup Make a Mistake Shifting to Multi-Hulls?

I think it's great.

Everyone wants to watch one flip!
__________________
Who knows what is next.
Therapy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-02-2012, 09:19   #9
Registered User
 
Cheechako's Avatar

Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Skagit City, WA
Posts: 25,518
Re: Did The America's Cup Make a Mistake Shifting to Multi-Hulls?

The top of the game to me would be the around the world racers. That's a little more real test of materials and design I think. But the AC is good I agree...
__________________
"I spent most of my money on Booze, Broads and Boats. The rest I wasted" - Elmore Leonard











Cheechako is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-02-2012, 09:23   #10
Registered User
 
S/V Alchemy's Avatar

Join Date: May 2008
Location: Nova Scotia until Spring 2021
Boat: Custom 41' Steel Pilothouse Cutter
Posts: 4,976
Re: Did The America's Cup Make a Mistake Shifting to Multi-Hulls?

Quote:
Originally Posted by skipmac View Post
Leading edge racing of any type is interesting but I think the America's cup should have stuck to monohulls and perhaps set up an separate race for multis.

I think the America's Cup also should go back to boats that can leave the dock and sail or not sink even if the winds are less than 5 kts and more than 15 kts.

Aaaaannnnddd...we're done here.

The America's Cup can make or not make all the mistakes it wants. I wouldn't pay attention any more than I would watch a fencing match between blind hemophiliacs. The baseline assumptions are too distant from my own idea of sailing. If you have to stop racing at 15 knots and 3 feet of waves because your boat might fold in half, you are more like an Opti with a pituitary disorder than a proper sailboat.

I take that back. I've never seen an Opti fold in half due to waves or wind.
__________________
Can't sail? Read about our travels at https://alchemyonpassage.blogspot.com/. Can't sleep? Read www.alchemy2009.blogspot.com for fast relief. Can't read? Avoid www.volumesofsalt.blogspot.com, because it's just personal reviews of sea books.
S/V Alchemy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-02-2012, 09:24   #11
Registered User
 
hogfighter's Avatar

Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: SE Florida
Boat: Hunter 430
Posts: 158
Images: 3
Re: Did The America's Cup Make a Mistake Shifting to Multi-Hulls?

I do wish that there was a "classic" category.....

No computers. Your "Wind Guage" is a wet finger.
hogfighter is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-02-2012, 09:26   #12
Registered User
 
cruiser6003's Avatar

Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Treasure Island, FL
Boat: Columbia, Sloop, 45
Posts: 20
Send a message via Yahoo to cruiser6003
Re: Did The America's Cup Make a Mistake Shifting to Multi-Hulls?

I applaud the multi hulls. There are far too many rules as it is. If it floats on the water and is powered by sails then it qualifies. Yes, it means corporate sponsorship but it also means the fastest sailboats out. Isn't that what racing is? Find the fastest of anything.

There are other events for those that can't compete with the Big Boys. PHRF racing in my opinion is just plain ludicrous. Like handicapped golfing. You'll always get sandbaggers.
__________________
Joel Wilkins
Treasure Island, FL
m/s Miss Magoo, Columbia 45, #98
cruiser6003 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-02-2012, 09:29   #13
Registered User
 
Celestialsailor's Avatar

Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Back in Northern California working on the Ranch
Boat: Pearson 365 Sloop and 9' Fatty Knees.
Posts: 10,469
Images: 5
Re: Did The America's Cup Make a Mistake Shifting to Multi-Hulls?

I like the cats now...fast, action packed. It took the stuffy old men and the cry-babies like Cayard out of the picture and replaced them with young top athletes. You have to admit...it's fun watching one pitch-pole with a crew member diving through the mainsail head first!
__________________
"Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well-preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming: Wow - what a ride!"
Celestialsailor is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-02-2012, 09:46   #14
Registered User
 
Sand crab's Avatar

Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Gig Harbor, WA
Boat: 34' Crowther tri sold 16' Kayak now
Posts: 5,067
Re: Did The America's Cup Make a Mistake Shifting to Multi-Hulls?

This thing is screwed up. If you look at the thread title
Did The America's Cup Make a Mistake Shifting to Multi-Hulls?
and were pro old style rules (mono only) then you would answer yes to the thread title.

Then if you read the post on the poll it says:
Are Multi-Hulls Right For The America's Cup?

If you answered yes here then you would contradict yourself earlier. Or vice versa. Mods please fix this.
__________________
Slowly going senile but enjoying the ride.
Sand crab is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-02-2012, 09:49   #15
Registered User
 
James S's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: May 2008
Location: We're technically refugees from our home in Yemen now living in Lebenon
Boat: 1978 CT48
Posts: 5,964
Images: 139
Re: Did The America's Cup Make a Mistake Shifting to Multi-Hulls?

I voted yes on both polls based on the question above the actual poll.
__________________
James
S/V Arctic Lady
I love my boat, I can't afford not to!
James S is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Australian America's Cup 12m Yachts Saved cat man do Monohull Sailboats 0 24-11-2011 14:40
Wired Magazine / America's Cup 72s David M Multihull Sailboats 3 20-09-2011 05:00

Advertise Here


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 07:49.


Google+
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Social Knowledge Networks
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.

ShowCase vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.