Cruisers Forum
 

Go Back   Cruisers & Sailing Forums > The Fleet > General Sailing Forum
Cruiser Wiki Click Here to Login
Register Vendors FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Log in

Reply
  This discussion is proudly sponsored by:
Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about their products on Cruisers Forums. Advertise Here
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Rate Thread Display Modes
Old 19-08-2013, 16:36   #1
Registered User

Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 5
Convoying between Florida and Bahamas

Does anyone know if/how more than one sailboat are/can be organized to make a group passage from Florida to the Bahamas, this November?
twarthen is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 19-08-2013, 16:41   #2
Senior Cruiser
 
skipmac's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: 29° 49.16’ N 82° 25.82’ W
Boat: Pearson 422
Posts: 16,306
Re: Convoying between Florida and Bahamas

It is fairly common for boaters to plan crossings together. Meeting at Noname Harbor in Miami to wait for a weather window is one way.
__________________
The water is always bluer on the other side of the ocean.
Sometimes it's necessary to state the obvious for the benefit of the oblivious.
Rust is the poor man's Loctite.
skipmac is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 19-08-2013, 19:25   #3
Registered User
 
Dulcesuenos's Avatar

Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Western Caribbean
Boat: 38/41 Fountains pajot
Posts: 3,060
Images: 4
Re: Convoying between Florida and Bahamas

Just keep checking different Sailing forumns, I know I see every weekend or so several Sailboats gather either at Tavernier Key and Rodriguez key (North side of both) in prep for crossing. I'm sure some of them peruse the forumns.
Dulcesuenos is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20-08-2013, 04:45   #4
Registered User

Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Heathsville, VA
Boat: Gemini 105Mc 34'
Posts: 1,457
Re: Convoying between Florida and Bahamas

...and those crossing to West End or Abacos often provision and wait for a window in the Lake Worth anchorages and marinas (higher numbers in January/February, though).
Waterway Guide is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20-08-2013, 07:12   #5
Registered User
 
AnchorageGuy's Avatar

Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Wherever the boat is!
Boat: Marine Trader 34DC
Posts: 4,619
Re: Convoying between Florida and Bahamas

twarthen, As Skipmac said, boats gather in No Name Harbor to cross and there is usually a large fleet if the weaather has not been good for a while. In Boot Key Harbor, Marathon City Marina, there is a boat buddy board where folks sign up for Bahamas crossings together. November is some time off so posting closer to that time, here and on other sites will get you more replies. A lot can change on a boat between now and then. Good luck. Chuck
__________________
Chesapeake Bay, ICW Hampton Roads To Key West, The Gulf Coast, The Bahamas

The Trawler Beach House
Voyages Of Sea Trek
AnchorageGuy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20-08-2013, 07:28   #6
Registered User
 
Group9's Avatar

Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 2,909
Images: 10
Re: Convoying between Florida and Bahamas

Quote:
Originally Posted by skipmac View Post
It is fairly common for boaters to plan crossings together. Meeting at Noname Harbor in Miami to wait for a weather window is one way.
That's the way it worked out for me, without even trying. Everybody is holed up there waiting for the window, so it just kind of works out on its own that a bunch of people cross together. We all agreed to monitor VHF and help anyone who got in a jam, but really, who wouldn't do that anyway?
Group9 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20-10-2013, 10:30   #7
Registered User
 
CaptJenks's Avatar

Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Wasaga Beach Canada & the Bahamas
Boat: Boston Whaler, 35ft Henrique Trawler
Posts: 13
Re: Convoying between Florida and Bahamas

Hi everyone

We have a 35ft trawler and looking to travel from the Lauderdale area to either Andros or Nassau late Nov or early December. We don't have a speedy boat but would like to travel in a convoy for our first crossing if possible. Any and all suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks in advance
CaptJenks is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20-10-2013, 14:12   #8
Now on the Dark Side: Stink Potter.
 
CSY Man's Avatar

Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Palm Coast, Florida
Boat: Sea Hunt 234 Ultra
Posts: 3,971
Images: 124
Re: Convoying between Florida and Bahamas

If your boat is not sea worthy enough to go alone, or you are not confident enought to go alone, then you probably should not go. Not really safety in numbers althought I have buddy-boated across the Gulf Stream a few of my 56 crossings because somebody asked us.
Usually women get spooked because they are out of sight of land. Never seen the bogey-man out there however....
__________________
Life is sexually transmitted
CSY Man is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20-10-2013, 14:22   #9
RTB
Registered User
 
RTB's Avatar

Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Home port Kemah, TX Currently in Brunswick Georgia
Boat: Hunter 36
Posts: 1,524
Images: 2
Re: Convoying between Florida and Bahamas

We are leaving Brunswick, Georgia, in a couple of weeks. This will be our second crossing, first one was May 1st this year. Just look for a good window. You won't be alone.

Ralph
| sailing away with R & B
RTB is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20-10-2013, 14:52   #10
Registered User
 
Vasco's Avatar

Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Toronto
Boat: CS36Merlin, "La Belle Aurore"
Posts: 7,557
Re: Convoying between Florida and Bahamas

Agree with CSY man.

You are essentially on your own or you should be. At the various staging ports all you have to do is get on the vhf and there'll be others thinking of taking the same window. What really matters is how long a window you're comfortable with. Some are happy with a good 8 hours, some wait for a two day window which rarely happens in the fall/winter.

On most of our crossings we have been on our own. I've crossed with buddies a few times but once we're out in the stream we don't usually see them until we get on the Bank. We usually have an informal race to see who managed the stream the best. First one to get to North Rock wins, but there's no prize.

We start in Miami and there's always a crowd waiting so if you really need a buddy you'll find one. The more people you buddy boat with, the more opinions as to when to start. Don't think a committee decision is what you should rely on in crossing to the Bahamas.
__________________
Rick I
Toronto in summer, Bahamas in winter.
Vasco is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20-10-2013, 14:57   #11
Registered User
 
Cheechako's Avatar

Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Skagit City, WA
Posts: 25,524
Re: Convoying between Florida and Bahamas

If you go down to Biscayne bay, Baggs park, (is that No Name harbor or...?) Boats tend to group there and leave on a weather window. You will find though that, once departed, most boats are independent spirits and dont sail near each other.... just keep going at their chosen speed... On a good weather window it's a piece of cake 8 hour + crossing.
You dont want to leave in a NE'ster, when the wind starts to clock south, then briefly west is when to go.
__________________
"I spent most of my money on Booze, Broads and Boats. The rest I wasted" - Elmore Leonard











Cheechako is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 20-10-2013, 18:33   #12
Registered User
 
CaptJenks's Avatar

Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Wasaga Beach Canada & the Bahamas
Boat: Boston Whaler, 35ft Henrique Trawler
Posts: 13
Quote:
Originally Posted by CSY Man View Post
If your boat is not sea worthy enough to go alone, or you are not confident enought to go alone, then you probably should not go. Not really safety in numbers althought I have buddy-boated across the Gulf Stream a few of my 56 crossings because somebody asked us.
Usually women get spooked because they are out of sight of land. Never seen the bogey-man out there however....
Thanks for the note. Yup..the boat is sea worthy and I have done the crossing before with our 30ft Boston Whaler... I have however heard a convoy can be a neat experience...
CaptJenks is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 21-10-2013, 19:04   #13
Registered User

Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 5
Quote:
Originally Posted by CSY Man View Post
If your boat is not sea worthy enough to go alone, or you are not confident enought to go alone, then you probably should not go. Not really safety in numbers althought I have buddy-boated across the Gulf Stream a few of my 56 crossings because somebody asked us. Usually women get spooked because they are out of sight of land. Never seen the bogey-man out there however....
Appreciate the input. Our boat, Calibre LRC 40, is, we believe, seaworthy for the passage. But this will be our first offshore experience. Our expectation is that this will be a learning and confidence-building experience. We have been conservative in outfitting the boat and acquiring experience on the Chesapeake Bay and are, we believe, ready for this next step.
twarthen is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 21-10-2013, 19:52   #14
Registered User

Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Apalachicola, North Florida
Boat: 1969 Morgan 28, Stiletto 27
Posts: 171
Re: Convoying between Florida and Bahamas

I have never really understood what help people expect from being part of a convoy.

In my experience troubles arise on bouncing seas in rough weather and winds, not on calm sunny days.

Would you leave your reefed in, hove to, boat to dingy over to help another in high seas? Would you come alongside to help, and destroy both your rigging? Would you even give up your hard gained progress toward safety to go help somebody else, risking your own safety in the process.

If you won't, the other convoy captains may make the same decision, or even see helping as impossible.

I prefer to prepare for my needs, and execute my plan. I enjoy the company of those who do the same.
__________________
Your WORKING IQ is your regular IQ, divided by the number of boats you own.
Bestathook is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 21-10-2013, 19:58   #15
Registered User

Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Behind the garlic curtain - east central Saskatchewan
Boat: Baylurker 2755
Posts: 608
We've never convoyed on the water but we have done it in our RV. NEVER AGAIN. Convoy travel means catering to the least capable member of the group. I suppose if if you ARE the least capable then you have nothing to lose.
__________________
R.J.(Bob) Evans
2755 Baylurker plastic shoebox
previously M/V Gray Hawk, 43 Defever Offshore Cruiser
bobofthenorth is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Advertise Here


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 15:48.


Google+
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Social Knowledge Networks
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.

ShowCase vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.