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Old 18-08-2013, 16:07   #61
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I will get the ball rolling .

Firstly, I would not make it a popular production boat, as you are bound to get some details wrong, which will grate with any experienced sailors reading the novel.

I would suggest you make it a one off boat like ours - it is arguably the best type of boat for two people blue water cruising .
Agree, don't make it a boat people know about.
I would make it a small boat, custom built by some salty dude.
That gives plenty of fodder to write about, complaining about this and that being too small, cursing the salty builder, but then praising him too about
this or that. More interesting.
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Hi Dee,

I have to applaud your efforts to research your subject so you can write a book that doesn't make the informed roll their eyes and moan. Since you got into diving you may share one of my pet peeves. I can't count the number of times I have read books or even articles in somewhat technical publications that refer to SCUBA divers and their "oxygen" tanks. Of course no one is using oxygen except technical divers who may use it for deco stops at 20' or so.

In defense of the members of the forum, there have been so many threads (maybe average a few a week) about the best boat, the bluewater boat, the safest boat, the ...., well you get the point. So it is easy to do a quick scan of the subject and vent some frustration. However, if you have been doing this writing gig for long and submitted anything to a publisher (or more likely a long list of many publishers) then I'm certain you are not that easily discouraged. If you are, better change careers fast.

Regarding sailing being a bigger subject than diving I have two comments. First someone said on the forum (and I paraphrase) that sailing is something you can learn in a day but take a lifetime to master. On the other hand, depending on how you want to get into diving it can be a very deep subject as well.

Good luck and ask some more questions. One suggestion, the more specific and targeted the question the more detailed answer you'll get back.
I KNOW RIGHT??? Drives me crazy when I read a book that has diving references with ridiculous and outlandish ideas like the hero dive 347 ft on SCUBA and surfaced 30 minutes later carrying 50 pounds of shiny gold coins. Argh! Same thing about healthcare. I can't even watch medical shows because I spend half the time wanting to write in to the show and say "Seriously...you NEED to hire me as your consultant because this is soooo implausible." Continued thread drift...sorry.

Dee...glad to see you have the right attitude. I'm newly active on this board and I just can't believe how mean some people can be. I try and chalk it up to "maybe English isn't their first language" or "Maybe they don't realize that the lack of non-verbals makes things sound a bit harsh sometimes" but seriously...a few people are just jerks. But the nice helpful ones truly make up for it. Good luck! And knowing more about your story...I still like the Little Harbor 53. Absolutely gorgeous boat. The other one I might recommend is a Hylas. More out there, probably. The name might be a little more well-known. Just a damn sexy boat! Purrrr!!! :-)
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Hiya Diver! Medical Soaps on TV, have no factual contents; that's why they are called soaps. They cater to a population who is bored to tears, easily impressed by a janitor in a white coat and a stethoscope. As far as diving 1000 ft, with no deco stops...it can only happen on TV.

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Agree, don't make it a boat people know about.
I would make it a small boat, custom built by some salty dude.
That gives plenty of fodder to write about, complaining about this and that being too small, cursing the salty builder, but then praising him too about
this or that. More interesting.
Yes, I thought about it to start with and other people have suggested it too. I still think it would be ideal. Unfortunately I find that I still know too little about the subject to be able to 'make up' a boat. With a production boat I would have the advantage of lots and lots of info available from the manufacturer, the 'for sale' listings and other online reviews.
I suggested to ask the owners of a 'custom made' to send me the specs of their beauty and lots of pictures but my editor will have none of it because of the 'potential future legal claims'. I know it sounds crazy but that's the sad state of affairs when it comes to fiction writing nowadays.
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I actually sort of like the custom idea also, now that you mention it. Legal crap always messes things up. :-)
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Thanks to everyone who have helped on this topic.
I have enough info to start digging on the matter of boat choice. As promised, everyone who provided useful insight and help will get add to the acknowledgements. I wish I could do more. Who knows, maybe one day our respective sails will take us to the same ports?

Maybe see you in other threads
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BTW if you can fit some goats into the story would be appreciated .
Goats no but I'm sure I can fit a bucket
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Hiya Diver! Medical Soaps on TV, have no factual contents; that's why they are called soaps. They cater to a population who is bored to tears, easily impressed by a janitor in a white coat and a stethoscope. As far as diving 1000 ft, with no deco stops...it can only happen on TV.

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My daughter is a doctor and cannot stand most medical shows, all total Hollyweird nonsense. It really bugged her that in the intro to Scrubs they put the x-ray on the view box backwards. I guess a lot of fans complained because a couple of years into the show they had a character come out and flip the x-ray and comment about how annoying it was to see the x-ray reversed.

By the way, what's the problem diving 1000' with no deco stops? Just breathe pure oxygen on the dive and you won't accumulate any inert gases in your tissues.
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Is this a fishing expedition? There isn't such a vessel. Only ones that the knowledgeable skipper has come to adapt to it's compromises. Key word here is knowledgeable AND SKIPPER.
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My daughter is a doctor and cannot stand most medical shows, all total Hollyweird nonsense. It really bugged her that in the intro to Scrubs they put the x-ray on the view box backwards. I guess a lot of fans complained because a couple of years into the show they had a character come out and flip the x-ray and comment about how annoying it was to see the x-ray reversed.

By the way, what's the problem diving 1000' with no deco stops? Just breathe pure oxygen on the dive and you won't accumulate any inert gases in your tissues.
Ya, but you'll be very very DEAD. Oxygen toxicity - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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By the way, what's the problem diving 1000' with no deco stops? Just breathe pure oxygen on the dive and you won't accumulate any inert gases in your tissues.
There is NO WAY this isn't a joke.
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There is NO WAY this isn't a joke.
Well of course it's a joke. Everyone knows you can't dive any deeper than 500' on oxygen.
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Ya, but you'll be very very DEAD. Oxygen toxicity - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Well actually that was a joke. Sorry I forgot to insert a smiley face to indicate humor.

In fact I contributed to the wikipedia articles on trimix and technical diving so am aware of the issues.
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