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01-04-2016, 22:14
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2016
Posts: 16
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Choosing the correct boat
Good day all, I am considering selling up and purchasing a yacht and need to make the right choice the first time as it will be the last, I have had many power boats in the past but age has changed me from a petrol head to a more placid nature, I am looking at a Lagoon 450 from 2011 onwards, will this boat be comfortable enough to cross the Atlantic and Pacific and to retire on?
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02-04-2016, 04:46
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Senior Cruiser
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Thunder Bay, Ontario - 48-29N x 89-20W
Boat: (Cruiser Living On Dirt)
Posts: 49,084
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Re: Choosing the correct boat
Greetings and welcome aboard the CF, Hot Sausage.
Sure.
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02-04-2016, 18:56
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2016
Posts: 16
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Re: Choosing the correct boat
Many thanks
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02-04-2016, 20:47
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Tortola, BVI
Boat: 2017 Lagoon 42
Posts: 149
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Re: Choosing the correct boat
Who will be with you? Singlehanded or first mate? Additional crew?
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02-04-2016, 23:20
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2016
Posts: 16
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Re: Choosing the correct boat
HI deep cut, it will be myself and my wife, the Lagoon 450 has the helm in the middle of the boat above the saloon which I prefer and 54hp motors, depending on where I will be purchasing a yacht, our dream is to sail the Bahamas, all islands down to Panama and Hawaii and possibly down to Fiji.
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03-04-2016, 05:24
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S/V rubber ducky
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: heading "south"
Boat: Hunter 410
Posts: 20,362
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Re: Choosing the correct boat
The horror of having the money to buy a 450 as long as faceless internet people say it's OK.
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03-04-2016, 05:38
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Senior Cruiser
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: PORTUGAL
Posts: 30,561
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Re: Choosing the correct boat
Hi Hot Sausage.. have you and your wife ever tried climbing up and down in a sea of 4 metres + and winds of 25kts+..??
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03-04-2016, 06:15
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Port Aransas, Texas
Boat: 2019 Seawind 1160 Lite
Posts: 2,126
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Re: Choosing the correct boat
Yeah, I am a cat guy but I hate those elevated steering stations.
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03-04-2016, 07:43
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Currently cruising the eastern Caribbean
Boat: Lagoon 42, Minx
Posts: 330
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Re: Choosing the correct boat
Avoid any boat with an exposed helm station or a helm station on the cabin top. One day or night of sailing in the rain or a long sunny day will make you appreciative of a sheltered helm station. Also the additional motion from being try that high will be harder on those prone to mal-de-mer.
We have an older Lagoon 42 with the helmstation under the bimini and behind a removable clear vinyl windscreen. We are very cautious in our passages, trying to depart only when at least three weather service reports predict mild weather (<=25 knots of wind). The only constant is that weather changes and we were caught in a strong squall just noth of St. Lucia. We spent the next morning pulling Sargasso seaweed out of our sail stack, more than 10' above the waterline.
Also avoid those costs with large forward facing glass doors. They don't leak when new, but give them a year or two.
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03-04-2016, 07:58
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: On board
Boat: Knysna 480
Posts: 75
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Re: Choosing the correct boat
I have been living on my boat for two years. I do catamaran deliveries and am also a part time broker.
I recently delivered a Lagoon 440 from Panama to Ft. Lauderdale.
Upper helm stations are great if you are hanging around in the BVI and having a cocktail watching sunset. That's why these boats were built for Moorings. They are not fun doing offshore passages with any kind of wind, rain, or rough seas. I almost crawled down the stairs during overnight watches when the seas were even slightly rough.
Read about as many catamarans as you can. Look at The Multihull Company website. There are many well written articles about catamarans, including different helm stations.
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03-04-2016, 08:34
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Maryland
Boat: Outbound 46
Posts: 323
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Re: Choosing the correct boat
So, on our monohull, we never worry about sailing in 25 or even 35 knots of wind. Reef to the conditions, and head on out. It does get a bit challenging when the waves are above 8 feet, but we manage.
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03-04-2016, 11:08
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Summer Europe Winter Florida
Boat: Dufour Nautitech435/FP Venezia42/Baltec Visiona 40/Catalac 10m used as a river cruiser
Posts: 182
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Re: Choosing the correct boat
I'm convinced that Boatman61 is more than right. I do not know why these bigsized condo partyboats are so in demand?
Ok I, most of the time sailing single handed or with small and even unexperienced crew cannot imagine how to handle the boat? Even with weak winds, if she even sails with that, you have to climb up to cockpit to adjust the sheets or the autopilot. And with strong winds and in a gale. How to reach the boom who is for security reasons high above the cockpit level (to save the heads of the helmsman when an accidental gybe happen.
For me a nightmare.
But for a numerous crew sailing the caribbean or the Bahamas so far ok.
Fair winds
James
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03-04-2016, 13:05
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2015
Posts: 664
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Re: Choosing the correct boat
It's a tough business this choosing the 'correct' boat.
It's now '4' boats that I wanted, that have had deals go pear shaped for different reasons.
So %*& it, I'm going to try and buy a Hunter Cherubini.
Whatever you go for, I hope you have better luck than me.
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03-04-2016, 13:15
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Netherlands
Boat: Ohlson 29
Posts: 1,519
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Re: Choosing the correct boat
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hot Sausage
the Lagoon 450 has the helm in the middle of the boat above the saloon which I prefer
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Why do you prefer that?
For me, that would be very high on the list of dealbreakers ...
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