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Old 04-12-2010, 23:08   #1
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Center Cockpit Question

I have been researching the pros and cons of CC's for some time. But it just hit me that the vision under the genoa must be greatly reduced with the higher and somewhat forward center cockpit compared to aft cockpits. Am I right? or have I missed something?

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I would say that it will depend on the cut of the genoa.

I have seen several people who fly their genoa with a pendant at the bottom to raise the foot. One reason for this is to lift the sail above the bow railing and reduce chafe on the sail and the other reason is to improve the visibility under the sail.

That being said, with some of the deck-hugging cuts on many modern designs for the improved performance, I doubt that you would be able to see clearly underneath them even from an aft-cockpit boat.
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G'day, mate. Center cockpit owner here. Yes, when we have our 150% genoa on the furler, the field of vision is more limited than on the comparable aft cockpit version of our Mason 53. Visibility is not an issue when we have our yankee on the furler (which is the case most of the time). Cheers.
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G'day, mate. Center cockpit owner here. Yes, when we have our 150% genoa on the furler, the field of vision is more limited than on the comparable aft cockpit version of our Mason 53. Visibility is not an issue when we have our yankee on the furler (which is the case most of the time). Cheers.
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Definitely, with the same sail, a center cockpit boat will have poorer visibility.

Our center cockpit boat has a high-cut yankee jib as the main foresail. You can see under the foot of the sail. It's another matter if you have the staysail flying.

In my experience, no cruising sailboat offers very good visibility forward under sail, at least, towards the lee side. But all in all that situation is probably worse with CC boats, since you are sitting up higher.

It's another matter altogether when not under sail (as in, when docking, when it's really important). The higher vantage point is a great advantage then.
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Dinghy on the foredeck has a much bigger impact on visibility than the sail. *grin*

I can see pretty well under or around my 100 jib - the 135 is a bit more work.
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Our cc (Pearson 385) has ok vision. We have a slight Yankee cut on the genoa. This makes all the difference. The biggest difference we noticed is the increased need for a dogger in cool clients and increased air flow in the warm times.
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yes. but your sailmaker may be able to suggest options for dealing with this if you do much sailing where visibility is crucial.
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Ok. So a number one with a high foot and clew would be good in busy areas it seems. Particularly around starting lines of social races and rallies etc.

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+1 for Dave on the dinghy.

Really depends on the boat. On the Hunter 45cc that we just delivered there really wasn’t an issue. Now look at a Hylas 54 Raised and the story changes and not for the better (the visibility that is).
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