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Old 08-05-2015, 10:51   #31
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Re: Cats vs Mono..why a mono

Fundamentally, it comes down to this :

The right monohull is a thing of beauty and grace - tradition and technology fused to make the most perfect machine ever built, while multihulls have all the beauty and grace of a kitchen appliance that's somehow fallen in the ocean.
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Fundamentally, it comes down to this :

The right monohull is a thing of beauty and grace - tradition and technology fused to make the most perfect machine ever built, while multihulls have all the beauty and grace of a kitchen appliance that's somehow fallen in the ocean.
It's useless comments like this that take all credibility from the poster.

On another note, more useful to this thread:
I always hear one big reason monohulls are preferred is lower cost of maintenance. But in talking to people that have owned both they all have said the cost is virtually the same for comparable boats. True you have one more engine but even with two hulls (depending on the boat) it's almost always not 2x the area when it comes to antifouling.
All other major maintenance areas are virtually the same.

So where is this drastic difference in cost coming from I keep hearing about? And I'm not talking about slip fees.

As far as form vs. function, this is another area I keep hearing about from those that prefer monohulls, how much better their boat looks vs a cat. For me, form will always follow function and the best examples of that I find are on a cat (for my needs). I could care less how good a monohull looks if I can't even stand up in the tiny salon without hitting my head.
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Old 08-05-2015, 11:48   #33
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Got it. Anyone who disagrees with you has no credibility. A bit touchy maybe because you know I'm right?
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The right monohull is a thing of beauty and grace - tradition and technology fused to make the most perfect machine ever built, while multihulls have all the beauty and grace of a kitchen appliance that's somehow fallen in the ocean.
also what the OP said: dockage for catamarans is difficult or impossible to find. either you tie up at the end or you look for another marina. most slips are for 12 to 15 foot beams. so in essence it does come down to money. i understand if you are limited to a 24" draft but other than that i don't get the attraction.
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Old 08-05-2015, 12:12   #35
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Don't forget Dragonfly and Corsair. Is Farrier still making tris? And there is that brand new Rapido 60 currently in production.

Edit: I see Farrier has subbed out the F-33 tri and the F-45 cat to an outfit in the Philippines.
Yeah, this dragonfly looks like the best of both mono and cat, if you are into hanging laundry from poles.



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Fundamentally, it comes down to this :

The right monohull is a thing of beauty and grace - tradition and technology fused to make the most perfect machine ever built, while multihulls have all the beauty and grace of a kitchen appliance that's somehow fallen in the ocean.
I don't know about tradition, but to me this has plenty of beauty, grace and more technology than you could find in 100 traditional monohulls. If I had a kazillion dollars I'd get me one of these.
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Re: Cats vs Mono..why a mono

Truth be told, NimbleMotors has it right about the Trimarans. I went on the Neel 45 in the Netherlands and could not believe the speed nor the comfort nor the ease of handling.

Inherently safe and beautiful and clever.

Well designed.
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The right monohull is a thing of beauty and grace - tradition and technology fused to make the most perfect machine ever built, while multihulls have all the beauty and grace of a kitchen appliance that's somehow fallen in the ocean.
https://youtu.be/bs3kpZpBaiw
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For anyone interested there's a Prout 33 being auctioned off by a charity on Ebay.
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I love these videos they have made, great example of the practicality and grace of multihull sailing!
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I don't know about tradition, but to me this has plenty of beauty, grace and more technology than you could find in 100 traditional monohulls. If I had a kazillion dollars I'd get me one of these.
Should have said MOST multihulls. Some of them look OK, I suppose!
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I love these videos they have made, great example of the practicality and grace of multihull sailing!
he did a nice job I thought, theres another he made of a tour of their boat

https://youtu.be/BDCsPPecGEQ

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In my mind it comes down to your answers to three questions:

1. Sailing and handling - I prefer a monohull to a cat, probably, because I grew up sailing monos.

2. Cost - When I look at cats, and I have, they always strike me as too expensive. Based on affordability, I would pick a monohull.

3. Comfort - I consider comfort and space to be synonymous. I'd also throw in there comfort of ride. On comfort, in my mind, the cat wins over the monohull. They certainly provide more space (at a fairly high cost) and I think that you can argue that they provide a more comfortable ride, but I'm sure that's debatable.

I think those are the primary questions to ask yourself. You can reorder them based on your priorities, but I think, as a group, they will help you decide what you want. My answers are irrelevant; your answers are what matter. Good luck.
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Fundamentally, it comes down to this :

The right monohull is a thing of beauty and grace - tradition and technology fused to make the most perfect machine ever built, while multihulls have all the beauty and grace of a kitchen appliance that's somehow fallen in the ocean.
I find monohulls to be boring, and some are plain ugly. The only nice looking ones are made of wood, over 100 years old, and would be a nightmare to own unless you're very rich.
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Answering the OPs question, I think the biggest factor in mono vs cat isn't beauty, survivability, speed, windward ability or what ever. It's cost. Cats are expensive. I paid $17500 for my 35' turn key mono. You don't get any cat for that kind of money, forget about a seaworthy Cat. If I was wealthy, I'd consider Cat. But I'm not, so it isn't even an option I would consider.

Combine initial purchase price with the fact that cats don't generally age very well and you have your answer why regular folks don't sail Cats.

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