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Old 17-03-2013, 16:29   #1
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Cargo Sjhip Grounds on Farne Islands

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Cargo ship remains stranded on Farne Islands - Local Headlines - Berwickshire News

BBC News - Danio cargo vessel runs aground on Farne Islands


Looks like another case of the watch keeper nodding off.
Both anchors nicely stowed in the pipes, and AIS has her at 10 kts just before coming to a sudden stop. The light house should have been a big clue if someone was paying attention.

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Old 17-03-2013, 17:54   #2
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Re: Cargo Sjhip Grounds on Farne Islands

So...radar guard ring OFF, AIS off, GPS alarm to waypoint OFF.

Poor fellow is deaf AND sleepy, and should be imprisoned for negligence.
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Re: Cargo Sjhip Grounds on Farne Islands

any harley davidsons on board!
missed out on the last one that washed up in cornwall
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So...radar guard ring OFF, AIS off, GPS alarm to waypoint OFF.

Poor fellow is deaf AND sleepy, and should be imprisoned for negligence.
Hey give the guy a break it was movie night in the crew's mess and he wanted to see it.
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Maybe he was experimenting...which is tougher...the hull or the rocks? Some poor underwater creature is trying to figure out what did it do to have its house demolished! Mauritz
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Re: Cargo Sjhip Grounds on Farne Islands

Just asking…. If this happened to a fellow yachtsman… would the sarcasm be as heavy?
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Should we feel sorry for his negligence? Should we feel sorry for the captain of the Concordia? Should we feel sorry for the captain of the Bounty? The world is full of incompetent captains. The seas are unforgiving. Sarcasm aside, if you or I hit bottom, no one will feel sorry for either of us; that is the reality of it! Mauritz
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Re: Cargo Sjhip Grounds on Farne Islands

Once the facts are established in an enquiry, then blame and recommendations should and can be made.
Just as in the high profile events you gave. But this is premature.

Do we hold commercial watch-keepers to a higher standard than yachtsmen?
If so, then why? Since we both carry ‘deluxe cargo’
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Just asking…. If this happened to a fellow yachtsman… would the sarcasm be as heavy?
Probably

If not initially then certainly by page 3.
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Just asking…. If this happened to a fellow yachtsman… would the sarcasm be as heavy?
How is that relevant? We're talking about a 80m vessel allegedly staffed by professional seafarers, not some old duffer working through his bucket list.
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How is that relevant? We're talking about a 80m vessel allegedly staffed by professional seafarers, not some old duffer working through his bucket list.
In similar past incidents, one common factor is an overworked and underpaid watchkeeper.
These ships carry two watchkeepers, Master and Mate, working 6 on 6 off.
The Mate is also responsible for the cargo operations.
Some of these coasters have hectic schedules, with the Master and Mate both ending up suffering from sleep deprevation.
There have been a number of studies into this watch keeping system, and the conclusions are that its not good on a working cargo ship. However, it will need government intervention to put an end to it.
Note the ships flag state, definitely flag of convenience.
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any harley davidsons on board!
missed out on the last one that washed up in cornwall
No such luck, I think its a timber cargo.
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