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Marine Service Provider
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Re: Can't take much more of this global warming
Crap I just wasted 5 minuted searching through Herbert Hoovers speaches...but i did find a photo of him in a dress....
another crap...that was J Edgar.....
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07-01-2014, 21:01
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#122
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Re: Can't take much more of this global warming
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Originally Posted by SV THIRD DAY
Crap I just wasted 5 minuted searching through Herbert Hoovers speaches...but i did find a photo of him in a dress....
another crap...that was J Edgar..... |
I love that picture! I carry it in my wallet!
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07-01-2014, 21:06
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#123
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Re: Can't take much more of this global warming
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Originally Posted by Delfin
, so I thought "what the heck....", I might as well post the first thing that came to mind.  |
Thought that was normal on CF. 
Coops,
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07-01-2014, 21:07
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#124
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Marine Service Provider
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Re: Can't take much more of this global warming
Ok now we have gone too far and the NSA has linked us two tea party radicals together like Laverne and Sherly.
Time to depoy the Tin Foil.....
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07-01-2014, 21:15
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#125
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Marine Service Provider
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Re: Can't take much more of this global warming
Note to Self:
Don't post on CF after 8PM and a few Jack and Cokes......
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07-01-2014, 21:17
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#126
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Location: Port Moresby,Papua New Guinea
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Re: Can't take much more of this global warming
> At some point, one has to realize that debating with MMGW campaigners is like debating with flat earthers
No, it's like debating with JW's It's not a matter of science so much as a matter of belief. MMGW alarmism is based on climate models. You're fighting against a belief that these models have any resemblance to reality despite all the evidence to the contrary.
There is no way you are going to change these beliefs in an online forum. It takes many hours of discussion and a huge amount of explanation of the data to de-program them.
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07-01-2014, 21:38
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Re: Can't take much more of this global warming
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Originally Posted by StuM
> At some point, one has to realize that debating with MMGW campaigners is like debating with flat earthers
No, it's like debating with JW's It's not a matter of science so much as a matter of belief. MMGW alarmism is based on climate models. You're fighting against a belief that these models have any resemblance to reality despite all the evidence to the contrary.
There is no way you are going to change these beliefs in an online forum. It takes many hours of discussion and a huge amount of explanation of the data to de-program them.
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That wouldn't do it either. So much emotional energy has been invested in campaigning for something they were convinced was virtuous, now that they are proven to be fools, whose willingness to waste money chasing windmills is really hurting people, it will be the rare person who can acknowledge they were wrong. So they will soldier on, abusing any scientist who practices the scientific method by actually trying to build a model that works, and hope that disaster is just around the corner so they will feel vindicated. Fortunately for all of us, we now know they are wrong, and even if they will never admit it, they probably do to.
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07-01-2014, 21:39
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#128
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Re: Can't take much more of this global warming
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Originally Posted by SV THIRD DAY
Note to Self:
Don't post on CF after 8PM and a few Jack and Cokes......
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Oh no, that is absolutely the best time... 
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I can picture in my head a world without war, a world without hate. And I can picture us attacking that world, because they'd never expect it. - Jack Handey
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07-01-2014, 22:31
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#129
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Bringing this back a bit. Supposed to be a balmy 30 f tomorrow. GW to the rescue!
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08-01-2014, 00:05
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#130
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Re: Can't take much more of this global warming
> Supposed to be a balmy 30 f tomorrow
30C for me 
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08-01-2014, 01:01
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#131
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Re: Can't take much more of this global warming
Follow the money all right....
http://www.scientificamerican.com/ar...-denial-effort
You're being manipulated.
Has this thread not Benn shut down yet?
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08-01-2014, 05:12
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#132
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Re: Can't take much more of this global warming
Thread still here because it's been civil, so far. Problem I have with these kinds of threads is after reading thru most of them over the years (while staying out of the substantive fray, as I have zero expertise) I still have no more idea who's correct than I ever did.
Let's face it: As more or less wealthy yacht owners or wannabees, we are likely one of the brightest and well-educated group of folks on the planet, and obviously we can't reach a consensus. And we all know, to a captain and admiral and furry friends, that consensus does not mean a damn thing.
Heck, some of our loudest shouters can't bother with spell check. I don't think these folks realize how much an argument is diminished by lazy scholarship. I note with some amusement how often, in their haste to post, a member OBVIOUSLY doesn't bother to proof read their post. Tsk tsk.
Sooooo, yawn, fight on guys. I'm switching my attention to the latest scandal hitting the NYPD and NYFD. Civil employees scamming a system?
Oh wait, that's not news. Muslims taking over the British Empire. Nah, nutin new there either.
How 'bout this new weather gal on CNN? I think she walks a very fine line between classy and slutty. I'd opine that a great red dress will take a gal farther than a little black one. She helps with warming the ship under my command! Oh yeah.
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08-01-2014, 06:08
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#133
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cat herder, extreme blacksheep
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Re: Can't take much more of this global warming
ok so usa is freezing butt off and it is at least 5 degrees farenheit colder this year than last year...i am still waiting on that increase in temp our planet is spozedly achieving..lol
and the increase in water level worldwide..i am ready.....
ocrapwhere did i put the furrz and fleece......
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08-01-2014, 06:18
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#134
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Location: Lake Ont
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Re: Can't take much more of this global warming
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Lake Effect,
What happened to your pleading?
I thought you wanted to kick the habit for awhile... 
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Others kicked it off. Steve, I haven't heard ONE fact from you, just a faint echo of weak arguments. It would be better if we just ignore each other, I guess.
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08-01-2014, 06:18
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#135
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Location: WNC mountains U.S.
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Re: Can't take much more of this global warming
How 'bout this new weather gal on CNN? I think she walks a very fine line between classy and slutty. I'd opine that a great red dress will take a gal farther than a little black one. She helps with warming the ship under my command! Oh yeah.
So you're saying the global warming phenomenon is more of a local one.
Had more pipes freeze last night. Can't wait till it gets back up to 30F!
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