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Old 07-01-2014, 08:06   #46
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25 this morning.... Did I mention I hate cold weather?!
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-25 C in Toronto. Extra police brought in to the airport here to handle angry frustrated travellers!
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Awesome word(s) of the day: Polar Vortex

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-25 C in Toronto. Extra police brought in to the airport here to handle angry frustrated travellers!
Yah, I just heard that, too. Thing is, many of Canada's major airports routinely operate in colder temperatures than that - Calgary, Edmonton, Saskatoon, Winnipeg, Thunder Bay, Montreal, and several US cities too - so it's hard to imagine why they can't, in Toronto. Might have something to do with mechanical service, though I heard that baggage isn't even being removed til this afternoon. This is gonna be a big story, I think. Much yelling.

Also in Toronto, many streetcars go out of service when it's really cold, due to freeze-up in the air brake system. Yet, the trucking industry has dealt with this for decades. You'll be hard-pressed to find a Canadian class 8 truck that doesn't have an air dryer in its airbrake system.

(Australia's getting +50C in some places. I think I prefer the cold)

[edit] - operations now resumed at Toronto airport (10:30 AM Eastern)
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Climate change? An ignorant label. The climate has been changing since the world began. Saying climate change is a phrase similar to sunrise. Shall we say that we are affecting sunrise? The ignorance of the masses is astounding.
Call it what you like.
As far as anyone can tell without a meteor or colossal volcanic activity it hasn't happened this close to instant in geological time scales before.
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... Wonder what Al (the ice caps will melt by 2014) Gore has to say about this?


Here's what he says to non-believers:
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According to the weather Gurus all this nastiness is the result of a neutral El Nino if that makes anyone feel better. The weather station on the Western Islands in Georgian Bay are recording wind speeds of 41 gusting to 47 knots.
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Wonder what Al (the ice caps will melt by 2014) Gore has to say about this?
One oceanographer, Wieslaw Maslowski , made that forecast. Other oceanographers did not agree.


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These other teams have variously produced dates for an open summer ocean that, broadly speaking, go out from about 2040 to 2100.
What is with the all the Al Gore references?


Of course a Danish coal carrier did transit the North West Passage in September. They are planning more.

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The company that made the first commercial transit of the Northwest Passage plans to increase its shipments through the legendary waterway next year, suggesting such traffic is coming sooner than anyone anticipated.

We hope and expect to do it, said Christian Bonfils of Nordic Bulk Carriers, the Danish shipper which owns the Nordic Orion.

The vessel made history last September when it hauled 15,000 tonnes of coal to Finland from Vancouver through waters that were once impenetrable ice. It took four days less than it would have taken to traverse the Panama Canal, and its greater depths allowed the Orion to carry about 25 per cent more coal.

Sailing through the passage saved the company about $200,000 and resulted in a nicely profitable voyage.
Commercial Northwest Passage trip expected to spur shipping traffic | The Chronicle Herald

A Chinese container ship transited the Northern Sea Route
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What is with the all the Al Gore references?
Al Gore is (apparently) a hypocrite, cos one can't make observations and prescriptions about conservation without personally consuming less than... just about anyone, and a profiteer of manufactured AGW hysteria. or so I'm told.

So, look... as much as I love me a good CC/AGW debate... let's not do this again this week. How about a break, everyone? Let's just share what's going on in our neck of the woods, and leave the climate debate off CF for a while? Please?
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According to the weather Gurus all this nastiness is the result of a neutral El Nino if that makes anyone feel better.
Which weather gurus?

I am back to following ENSO as I am probably doing a Pacific passage this summer.

http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/product...-fcsts-web.pdf

On the other hand:

Is The Record Cold Arctic Outbreak Tied To Global Warming? - weather.com Do the Hot and Cold Spells Have a Meaning?

Masters reported on this in 2012.
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One oceanographer, Wieslaw Maslowski , made that forecast. Other oceanographers did not agree.




What is with the all the Al Gore references?


Of course a Danish coal carrier did transit the North West Passage in September. They are planning more.



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A Chinese container ship transited the Northern Sea Route
I guess that isn't the same chinese ship trapped in the Antarctic?
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Cool. (pardon the pun)
Maybe eventually we'll have a tropical pole area with frigid equator.
I'm still waiting to catch a Mahimahi in Puget Sound.
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The one in the Antarctic is this one

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