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Old 23-07-2009, 15:21   #16
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maybe have a chat with your freind - explain it could be worse, boat may have been bought by someone who left her tied to the dock slowly detiorating..........whereas she is instead being appreciated by and bringing joy to others.

I know which I would choose........
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Old 23-07-2009, 18:46   #17
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"What's in a name? A rose by any other name would smell as sweet."
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Old 23-07-2009, 19:27   #18
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Always found it impossible to change other peoples' minds, when I haven't been willing to change my own.

Perhaps remind your friend that the boat was given its name as a celebration of his children's lives, and that whenever he sees her he remembers all the happy events, and the family's good times together.

As said, he has no rights. The main options are to change his perspective or to negotiate a deal with the new owner. And the new owner is probably wondering "What on earth is going on here?"
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Old 23-07-2009, 19:34   #19
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If I was selling a boat these days and lucky enough to find a buyer the very last thing I'd worry about is whether the name was changed or not.
Having said that everyone does have a right to their feelings, maybe offer to buy the Dom Perignion for the renaming ceremony if the new owner agrees.
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Old 23-07-2009, 20:42   #20
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Is there anything he can do? Is there a superstition that would override the above?
When it comes to superstitions there is a rule that says: If you are cheap enough to not want to pay to change the name of a boat then it is bad luck to do so. It's universal.

Some times reasonable people make accommodations and exceptions. Given it is a local situation there must some social pressures that might sway the boat owner to reconsider. The easier alternative would be to tell your friend - You are absolved! The curse has passed to someone Else's now. Let them suffer a horrible death in peace. They are neighbors and you can watch them suffer until they decide otherwise. Often revenge overcomes superstition. The only thing stronger is greed. He could pay to have the name changed. Beyond that my feeling is he isn't that upset about it. Drama is a an end result too.
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Old 23-07-2009, 22:20   #21
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Old 23-07-2009, 22:59   #22
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I can empathize. I owned a red MGB and miss it. Every time I see one I get nostalgic. I should ask all owners of red MGB's to repaint it.

Perhaps he can sell his cabin and move to another lake. Really does he recognize the boat and get weepy or has to see the actual name. Quick solution...stop sitting on the dock looking for his old boat.
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Old 24-07-2009, 06:54   #23
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As it may relate to Canadian law, here in the U.S. the only viable way in which anyone can control the name right would be contractually by stipulating the desire to retain right to the name in the Purchase and Sales Contract. I infer the owner did not have the foresight to do so upon sale of the boat. If that is in fact the case, he retains no right to the name nor can he bar a subsequent owner from any right to ownership of the boat, including it's name.
It was a condition of sale on my boat that the name be changed. I was fine with that, as I wanted to change it anyway.
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Am not selling my boat, but as now named after me late Missus would feel a bit sad (if not miffed) should her name get changed by a later owner.

Of course not to say I won't ever rename her again myself even I can see that a boat named after a dead wife might not be an easy sell if I get to looking for "crew" .........even without her picture, complete with trademark sh#t eating grin , dominating the saloon. Wimin can be funny like that

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Sure are some strange folk about.

Some people have real issues and tragedies to deal with in their lives, like the guys being killed and maimed in Afghan and iraq
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Big girl panties...Yeah, and doesn't the Canadian National Health include meds for situations like this?

Of course, renaming the children and moving to a far distant province would probably also work.
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Old 24-07-2009, 14:28   #27
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"What's in a name? A rose by any other name would smell as sweet."
I think if you substitute rose with a word like rectum, portajohn, slaughterhouse or autopsy you might be struck but just ridiculous that statement is.
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The seller could look at it as being a positive thing. I suppose some sellers would be mad IF the owner changed the name! The "kids" are out there on the water with the boat.... how wonderful!
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I think if you substitute rose with a word like rectum, portajohn, slaughterhouse or autopsy you might be struck but just ridiculous that statement is.
Im not sure Billy Shakespeare would agree
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I rememer a story and don't know if it is true. Perhaps some of our Aussie friends could verify this. There is a gentleman who has campaigned a series of boats named "Bumblebee" When he sells the boat he makes it a condition of sale that the name of the boat is changed. Of course everyone reffered to the new owners boats as the "Ex-Bumblebee" so one purchaser changed the name of the boat from Bumblebee to "Ex-bumblebee" Technically a name change. Well they went to court over it and the new owner relented and changed the name. Has anyone ever heard this story?
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