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Old 19-06-2016, 05:02   #1
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Can I fix this anchor rope?

It seems my anchor rope has unspun itself because I have been doing several 360's at anchor.

Can I massage and twist it back into shape or is it a loss. Also is it much weaker now?



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Old 19-06-2016, 05:17   #2
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Re: Can I fix this anchor rope?

I'd cut out the hockle and splice it if it were me



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Re: Can I fix this anchor rope?

Hockles (kinks) cannot be effectively removed, and the rope is permanently damaged at the point of hockling.
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Re: Can I fix this anchor rope?

Cut out at least 3 turns to each side of it....
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Old 19-06-2016, 07:19   #5
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Re: Can I fix this anchor rope?

Thankfully it is only about 1 meter from the end that is spliced to the anchor chain.

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Old 19-06-2016, 08:32   #6
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Re: Can I fix this anchor rope?

Hello,
Add a swivel to your anchor chain, cut out the kink and splice with at least 7 tucks.
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Re: Can I fix this anchor rope?

The simple fix is to just cut out the bad part. But this line is cheap not worth risking a 40-foot sailboat in my humble opinion.
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Re: Can I fix this anchor rope?

Its likely that happened as you pulled the anchor up because the line tends to twist/untwist as tension changes.

The swivel idea is very good.
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Old 19-06-2016, 08:42   #9
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Re: Can I fix this anchor rope?

Cut it out resplice a new eye with thimble and use a swivel betwixt the line and chain. That's what swivels are for. If you have one of those new fangled streamlined ones get rid of it and go back to the old tried and trued galvanized ones. I've never seen one fail to keep the twists out. the others seem to only turn when the load is light. it might be a little extra labor at the roller or Gipsy, but it's better than racing out to deploy an other anchor when the rode has failed due to kinks or in this case cutting out line. A mariners life is not for the lazy one.
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Re: Can I fix this anchor rope?

I recall an old salt telling me about how he once lost an anchor that had a swivel on the chain when the swivel broke while he was anchored in seas that got rough overnight. He advised me never to use a swivel on the anchor chain as it will be its weakest point and thus the first point of failure.
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Don't use a swivel rated for less than the chain or line... a 500 lb rated swivel isn't going to work well on a 1000 lb line.
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Thankfully it is only about 1 meter from the end that is spliced to the anchor chain.
Oh Heavens! If that's the case, I think it's a pretty obvious answer to cut and resplice. Presuming we're talking about a rope-to-chain splice, it's not a bad idea to renew these splices frequently.

I disagree that a hockle is to be expected from three-strand line that is tensioned and eased. I think it's a sign of an unbalanced line which has not be twisted correctly when made. It's essential that the torque on a twisted line be balanced so that hockling doesn't happen. Yes, it can happen by inducing twist (like circling an anchor in a tidal flow), but should not be caused by easing tension.

I did a test on rope-to-chain splices in the early 90s when the combination gypsies were hitting the market from Simpson Lawrence and other companies. I spliced up 10 samples of 1/4" chain and 1/2" three-strand line, and five samples of 5/16" chain and 5/8" line, and sent them to New England Ropes to be broken. In all cases, the splices broke at the last link of chain, but virtually all of them held to 90% of the breaking strength of the line (as I recall). In all cases, the chain links were stretched from 1 to 10% in length, showing that the chain was close to failure. The test was written up in Practical Sailor. CF readers may want to look it up.

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Re: Can I fix this anchor rope?

if you use a swivel with the proper load rating and don't let it get rusty, you won't have a problem. I've anchored through 4 hurricanes..one of which was a cat 2....and never had a problem. In fact in the last 40 years I haven't had a swivel "break" once. I have had the newer ones not turn without assistance.
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Re: Can I fix this anchor rope?

If it wasn't so close to the end you could drag it behind the boat for a while and that should make it look OK again. As long as the fibers are tight again you have lost little, probably less than your new splices, old eyes etc.
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Treatise on rope: https://seagrant.uaf.edu/bookstore/boatkeeper/rope.pdf
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