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Old 15-07-2014, 16:42   #211
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what marinas do you recommend getting on the waiting list for? 65 ft and best rate where i wont lose my electronics if left unattended. thanx
Welcome aboard sugar baby!

Boat burglary is extremely rare here. I have never actually heard of a case in 9 years, but this isn't a crime free place. Stuff gets "lifted" if left laying around. It's weird. Almost like finders keepers attitude.

Anyway, you should investigate/visit One-15, Keppel, RSYC and Raffles to start and see which one gives you the vibe...
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Welcome aboard sugar baby!

Boat burglary is extremely rare here. I have never actually heard of a case in 9 years, but this isn't a crime free place. Stuff gets "lifted" if left laying around. It's weird. Almost like finders keepers attitude.

Anyway, you should investigate/visit One-15, Keppel, RSYC and Raffles to start and see which one gives you the vibe...
thanx bud. seems u know tyhe ropes there. finders are usually keepers everywhere i chose quikly. gonna take this choice carefully. thanx
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If I'm not mistaken Kepple, where I'm based, is the only one which you don't need to buy a membership for. These have come down a lot over the years but are still pretty pricey in some cases. I'd agree that you should check them all before you decide. Keppel and One15 are well located but the others are a bit more boatie friendly and active in my opinion.

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Just a minor point of clarification on the PPCDL requirement

If you own a foreign registered vessel you can avoid the requirement to do the whole PPCDL by doing an online self assessment test instead

Once you eventually pass , validity is 6 mths.

Without it ( or a PPCDL) you cannot apply for a cruising permit and so technically cannot go boating at all within Singapore waters


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Just a minor point of clarification on the PPCDL requirement

If you own a foreign registered vessel you can avoid the requirement to do the whole PPCDL by doing an online self assessment test instead

Once you eventually pass , validity is 6 mths.

Without it ( or a PPCDL) you cannot apply for a cruising permit and so technically cannot go boating at all within Singapore waters


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Same applies if you own a Singapore registered (flagged) but not licenced boat.
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Hi guys! New here and from Singapore too. Been thinking of buying a small boat that's good for fishing trips and comfortable for the wife and daughter too.
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Old 07-09-2014, 05:38   #217
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Welcome aboard 16570...

Pretty stealthy screen name. Or is that the PIN to your bank account - LOL...

Are you looking for power or sail boat?
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Thanks Ex-Calif! 16570 is the model number of a 40mm Rolex Explorer 2, which also happens to be my current love. Looking more for a power boat, a small cabin cruiser. Been reading some members' blogs on sailing though, and gotta admit, it's getting to me.
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Without it ( or a PPCDL) you cannot apply for a cruising permit and so technically cannot go boating at all within Singapore waters
there's just one minor issue with the cruising permit required for foreign registered vessels ...

as per MPA, you cannot sail in local waters with more persons on board than were on board when the boat entered Singapore.

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Hi guys! New here and from Singapore too. Been thinking of buying a small boat that's good for fishing trips and comfortable for the wife and daughter too.
one more question, if i may ...

what is your intent? to fish & cruise only in local waters? or go further like tioman, anambas or even phuket?

cos if you are planning longer distances, the requirement may be different ...

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Looking more for a power boat, a small cabin cruiser. Been reading some members' blogs on sailing though, and gotta admit, it's getting to me.
please don't take this the wrong way ... but buying a power boat is a serious commitment ...

you may consider renting a boat for a spell to see whether you really like it ... might well end up saving you a chunk of change ...

but of course if your mind is made up ... welcome to the ever growing boating community ...

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It'll be local waters for fishing trips for a start, but I would like to explore further seas in future though.
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Greetings and welcome aboard the CF, 16570.
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Thanks Gordmay, and thanks to BigJohn & Ex-Calif too for all the advice. Would love to join in any local meetups if I'm allowed. Got load to learn.
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one more question, if i may ...

what is your intent? to fish & cruise only in local waters? or go further like tioman, anambas or even phuket?

cos if you are planning longer distances, the requirement may be different ...



please don't take this the wrong way ... but buying a power boat is a serious commitment ...

you may consider renting a boat for a spell to see whether you really like it ... might well end up saving you a chunk of change ...

but of course if your mind is made up ... welcome to the ever growing boating community ...

A sailboat or a powerboat is a serious commitment.

As far as I know there is no serious boat rental places in Singapore. A couple have tried a time share type operation but I am not aware of any that are show up and pay for a day type places.
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there's just one minor issue with the cruising permit required for foreign registered vessels ...

as per MPA, you cannot sail in local waters with more persons on board than were on board when the boat entered Singapore.



Hi BJ

I finally got around to checking MPA circular 8 and there is no mention of that little nugget of wisdom

Seems there a few issues to consider

(i) the flag of the boat and (ii) the qualifications of the captain and (iii) the status of those on board (passengers or crew)

Cruising sailors (as well as Singapore residents ) can take Singapore licensed and registered boats out to sea - but still need to have PPCDL or a successful online test result to be legal

Cruising sailors can also take foreign registered vessels out but need either PPCDL or successful online certification to be legal

Since one of the prime purposes of cruising permits stated in MPA circular is recreation , the limit to the number of passengers on foreign vessels is subject only to limitations of the craft itself - not related to the captain's qualifications

If there is a limitation on crew member numbers on foreign vessels, that's a different thing , but still not stated in the MPA Circ. 8

Can you let us know where this one came from ? I checked briefly with MPA by phone and they don't know the answer

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