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Old 23-10-2014, 14:03   #226
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Nice pics Atoll. What, that yellow piss in the canisters?
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Where did the other hull go..??
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I think somethings smells fishy here........oh well, your Lady friend is very Pretty..... U sure she won't ship out with you??

Boatman would be proud of you for sharing your Pics with us......after all, he Finally shared his Pics of his 3 shipmates coming over from Ft. Lauderdale. He had quite a Smile on his face.......


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Was chatting to a guy here.. Jan Hamester.. Open 60's racer who knows the boat from a few years back.. seems the original owner I met in AEro who said I was crazy trying to cross the Atlantic nearly sank her in a F7 off N France with waves coming over the decks.. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
But.. she still had two cockpits and lots to flood.. now theres only the little one at the back.. the rest has been decked over so..
Not the best spot to be stuck for a few days so am debating making a run W tomorrow.. right out then tack back in toward Belgium then run the Straits with a beam reach...
But then again maybe not.. see what PW says in the am.. high waters 10am so plenty of time to decide..

Ok I will be the ass...

First of all I am glad everyone is OK and we only bent a boat.

It's hell to second guess your self and BS to be second guessed by an armchair sailor halfway around the world but aren't there some lessons here?

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Suppose I'd better put you all outa your speculations...
Got hit hard by the combination of Gonzalo's remains and a Spring tide driven in by 45 gusting to 55kt winds.. rose the water so high it swamped the breakwater and broke the chains on the pontoon I was tied to.. had to cut all my lines to break free.
- We knew all about crap weather in the area
- The boat was safe in then canal?
- The boat popped over to Cuxhaven presumably to get a jump start but a much more exposed place and right on the tail of a storm
- The dock failed - not your fault but someone warned of the 45kt wind coming, albeit hours before it got there

Hindsight is 20/20 but shouldn't the boat have stayed in the canal until the storm's intentions were known?

Once in Cuxhaven with warning of surge and 45kt winds was there an opportunity to move the boat to a better shelter in that harbor?

Was the pressure of a fast delivery a factor?

For me the lesson is don't get near storms and stay in the most sheltered place I can find even if it is inconvenient and adds day(s) to a trip.

Sorry to be the internet ass/smartypants and I recognize I wasn't there but it seems this could have been avoided/minimized.

Sorry again, just my 20/20 hindsight.
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Old 23-10-2014, 19:13   #231
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Now come on, boatman should have been fine there if the dock had not failed. But we have to blame the Monkey and all the talk of food. Boatman only had access to beer and sausage for food. The more pics of crabs and talk of fried bananas he saw the more he was motivated to go. After all Atoll has a salad girl! How does that stack up?
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Thumbs up for the Salad Girl........Atoll did good.......


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Ok I will be the ass...

First of all I am glad everyone is OK and we only bent a boat.

It's hell to second guess your self and BS to be second guessed by an armchair sailor halfway around the world but aren't there some lessons here?



- We knew all about crap weather in the area
- The boat was safe in then canal?
- The boat popped over to Cuxhaven presumably to get a jump start but a much more exposed place and right on the tail of a storm
- The dock failed - not your fault but someone warned of the 45kt wind coming, albeit hours before it got there

Hindsight is 20/20 but shouldn't the boat have stayed in the canal until the storm's intentions were known?

Once in Cuxhaven with warning of surge and 45kt winds was there an opportunity to move the boat to a better shelter in that harbor?

Was the pressure of a fast delivery a factor?

For me the lesson is don't get near storms and stay in the most sheltered place I can find even if it is inconvenient and adds day(s) to a trip.

Sorry to be the internet ass/smartypants and I recognize I wasn't there but it seems this could have been avoided/minimized.

Sorry again, just my 20/20 hindsight.
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Pressure from owner not a factor.. lack of sun.. Yes..
No warning of surge.. was aware of the storm but.. one assumes the lifeboat mooring would be as safe as anywhere.. or is that being dumb..
Why did I leave the Kanal.. only allowed 4 nights in the 10euro dock by the locks.. only so many places one can go with a 3metre draft.. and Cuxhaven was the nearest.
Fookin Spot... ed agin...

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Old 23-10-2014, 23:19   #234
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Boatman you don't need to justify your judgement. You was there during all the necessary decision making as most of us were sitting at home and should not attempt to make your decisions you had to make. I'm sure many had to be made on the spur of the moment with the best you could do.....gotta act Now.....coulda been far worse than it was........You did Good.....

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3 Paracetamols every morning can alter ones disposition amazingly
Pressure from owner not a factor.. lack of sun.. Yes..
No warning of surge.. was aware of the storm but.. one assumes the lifeboat mooring would be as safe as anywhere.. or is that being dumb..
Why did I leave the Kanal.. only allowed 4 nights in the 10euro dock by the locks.. only so many places one can go with a 3metre draft.. and Cuxhaven was the nearest.
Fookin Spot... ed agin...
No kidding on the bad luck with the lifeboat mooriong failing.

And the 4 night limit at the locks explains a lot.

Thanks for clarifying...
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Old 24-10-2014, 05:40   #236
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Pity. You'd miss these palm trees featured here.



PS- they are at 54.816072N 8.470573W

And the village is quite proud of them.
Palm trees in Ireland. Is this climate change or what?
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An occasional pint o Guinness may lower the freezing temp. It works for me.
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awesome updates..
need to rename this thread boaty''s and atoll's excellent adventures
love you boys!!! <3 <3
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Palm trees in Ireland. Is this climate change or what?
They were there when I first visited about almost 30 years ago. Surprised the bejesus out of me, but the explanation I got was that coconuts float up the Gulf Stream, and the remnants of it keep western Ireland warm enough to grow them. The Gulf Stream does keep it warmer, so it makes some sense.
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Palm trees in Ireland. Is this climate change or what?

My great-grandmother often told my mother about the Palm trees in County Cork. I checked that out for myself several years ago on a visit to the ancestral village. This is on the south end of the Emerald Isle, but I think Great-Grandma emigrated in the 1890s, so Ireland has had Palm trees for a long time.


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