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Old 22-09-2013, 19:21   #76
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I'd take their interest in aviation seriously. It's all education from there.
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and if they said they want a Cessna 182 turbo for $15,000?
would you take them seriously?

BTW if you know of any ready-to-fly 182 turbos for $15,000 dont hold back :P
Likely as seriously as folk are taking you...
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Old 22-09-2013, 19:31   #78
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1/4 SHARES 1984 C182RG @ KFDK $20,000 PARTNER WANTED Great IFR plane. TT 4950; TSO 240. Debt free. 430 WAAS, a/p, STEC 60-2, XM wea. 1st share $20K. Contact Daniel B. DeDona, Owner - located Waynesboro, PA USA Telephone: 717-404-8726 . 717-762-1742 Posted September 9, 2013 Show all Ads posted by this Advertiser Recommend This Ad to a Friend Email Advertiser Save to Watchlist Report This Ad View Larger Pictures



It's not turbocharged and it's a partnership...but then I guess that's the education part huh?
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Old 22-09-2013, 19:36   #79
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1/4 SHARES 1984 C182RG @ KFDK $20,000 PARTNER WANTED Great IFR plane. TT 4950; TSO 240. Debt free. 430 WAAS, a/p, STEC 60-2, XM wea. 1st share $20K. Contact Daniel B. DeDona, Owner - located Waynesboro, PA USA Telephone: 717-404-8726 . 717-762-1742 Posted September 9, 2013 Show all Ads posted by this Advertiser Recommend This Ad to a Friend Email Advertiser Save to Watchlist Report This Ad View Larger Pictures



It's not turbocharged and it's a partnership...but then I guess that's the education part huh?
if that was the case i would just get a 172.
of course my dream plane is the 8KCAB....
i will own neither, as i may be going for my A&P...
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Old 22-09-2013, 19:39   #80
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Got about 30 hrs of acro in one...you'd love it.
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Old 22-09-2013, 19:43   #81
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Got about 30 hrs of acro in one...you'd love it.
envy is tough sometimes...
i will do my first acro in a T6 texan.
it takes a lot of self control to not do a wing over in the 172.....
thou i may do dirty power on stalls on purpose.... sometimes 3 times in a row.
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and if they said they want a Cessna 182 turbo for $15,000?
would you take them seriously?

BTW if you know of any ready-to-fly 182 turbos for $15,000 dont hold back :P
He could get a tripacer for 15000 and likewise a decent enough sailboat,do all the sailboats out on the oceans cost 6 digits?
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Old 22-09-2013, 19:52   #83
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He could get a tripacer for 15000 and likewise a decent enough sailboat,do all the sailboats out on the oceans cost 6 digits?

no, but in the size he wants, $15,000 will buy a hulk.
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Old 22-09-2013, 20:31   #84
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do all the sailboats out on the oceans cost 6 digits?
No they don't
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After going through the early looking and asking questions I've jumped. I too made the mistake of looking for a boat that included the B word in it's description. I dialed back the meter on what I thought I needed and ended up buying what I describe below. I will keep careful track of the expenditures and do a complete write up on my experience for the good of all.
Here's the starting point found on Craigslist for $2250.00
1974 Newport 30
Sound Hull, Standing Rigging and Sails
Marine A/C-Heat
Refrigeration
CNG system with oven
Universal diesel that runs well
Two VHF's and good ground tackle
Interior stripped before I bought it.
Work done so far is remove, clean and re-bed all deck hardware including bow and stearn rails for $200.00 labor and materials
Replaced starting battery and bought new charger $300.00
Replaced fixed windows with new lexan. 240.00 including labor
The interior will be replaced along with the running rigging, paint topside and bottom and rub rail.
I will do all the canvas and cushion work myself
I plan on doing most of this myself but I will hire some out.
Some of the less mocking posters have noted that you can't do anything until you get the experience you need and until then it's all a lot of talk and speculation. Aolele will be my school to teach me what I need to know. I may cruise her or sell her and get something else before taking off. My idea is even if I end up spending something like 8G's I've then just reached the value of the boat but it will all be new and done the way I want it. We will see. One of the issues central to the mocking crowd seems to be the labor costs. I will tell you I'm not spending $75 an hour to a guy in the yard. I asked around the dock and will pay $15 an hour to a retired craftsman that used to be that guy. Now he does it because he enjoys it and keeps him busy. The two guys that re-bed the deck hardware got $100.00 apiece and had it done in six hours flat...it's all solid as a rock. I don't know when I first discovered the idea of going cruising or penned my first post, I guess it's here somewhere but it's been a few years at least. It took me that long to get this far including moving to Florida which was my companies doing not mine. Take your time and don't be offended by the mockers and above all ignore the greatest enemy of progress...the almighty generalization.
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I did a similar thing and bought a 1974 Bristol 27 for $2,000, but I didn't do a lot of work on it. Replaced the diesel with a new outboard, painted the bottom, replaced the running rigging, cleaned all the crap out of it then started sailing it.

Eventually, I bought a new mainsail then sailed it some more. I actually bought this boat to find out if I would like sailing monohulls. I do, but they are slow.

The boat really won't sail like I want it to until the wind gets up around 17 -25 knots. Then I can enjoy it. Btw, I sail this boat back and forth across the mouth of the Chesapeake Bay which can get pretty bumpy.

So far I haven't repaired anything structurally, but recently added a 60 Watt Solar Panel, a controller/regulator, and an 850 watt dc/ac inverter. Now I can have coffee and charge or run my laptop.

I'm now looking at a 1984 Ericson 35 PHRF 123. I would like a bit more speed. The Bristol's PHRF rating is 240. They are asking $38,900 for the Ericson. Quite a price difference for a little more speed.
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Re: Bluewater Cruisers for under $15,000

I often poke around on the Boat Angel Ministries site to see what donated boats they're auctioning off:

Here's a 36-foot ferrocement boat in Oregon that looks pretty rough and unloved, but may be sound underneath it all. . . . You could run over there with a surveyor tomorrow and check it out. Then bid with more knowledge than the rest.

Three days to go and the auction is at $355. . . .

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A word of caution here, ferro boats can be hard to insure.
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Here you are, only $5000, so you've got 10K to play with. a buddy of mine singlehanded a sister ship across the Atlantic three times.
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Here you are, only $5000, so you've got 10K to play with. a buddy of mine singlehanded a sister ship across the Atlantic three times.
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But it'll mean 1000's of man hours and 10's of 1000's of $'s to make it sea worthy... so I hear..
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But it'll mean 1000's of man hours and 10's of 1000's of $'s to make it sea worthy... so I hear..
It just cant be done ...You can not do it that way ..In my country we do it like this ...By the way, did I tell you that you cant do that? You cant..The reason being ,is that I couldnt do it, and I will be damned if you can... Nice boats if you can get one(but you cant) ..
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