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View Poll Results: how would you classify your planned cruising boat
a full "blue water" boat in all regards 88 61.97%
a "coastal cruiser" that I never plan to blue water in 9 6.34%
a coastal cruiser that I will upgrade as needed and then blue water in 25 17.61%
can not classify but if I feel it is a safe boat I will take it anywhere 23 16.20%
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Old 24-08-2010, 14:42   #16
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Well the poll got low response, but of the 30 people who did make a choice
Let's hope that's because it's such a tired subject. "Bluewater Boat" is nothing more than a marketing term, something made up by a boat salesman to convince wannabe cruisers that they should purchase brand x rather than brand y. It's the ultimate attack ad, because the implication is that if you venture into blue water in a Brand Y boat, you will probably die.

I don't see the point in putting up another poll that only serves to upset owners of one type of boat or the other. This leads to a shallow sort of discussion that gets us nowhere as a forum. It's especially tiresome when variants of this shallow topic are proposed over and over.

The last thing we need here is another discussion of why BeneHunterlinas are not bluewater boats because they don't have full keels, or why boats with a certain number of hulls are better or worse than other boats, or why certain rigs are less worthy than others.

I look forward to the day when another of these threads (or pseudo-polls) is started and we all ignore it. We should be focusing on cruising, not on promoting one brand over another.
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Old 24-08-2010, 15:08   #17
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The point was to get a poll for what people believed they have without ANY debate as to why it was or wasn't. I NEVER asked for what they had or why anyone else thought their boat was or wasn't. I have a feeling that regardless of the posts that get "discussed" is that most people believe their boat is capable, and if they believe so then I believe they are correct. I posted this as poll so that it wouldn't become a discussion.

But I did enjoy your response to me, Bash. You of course didn't NEED to post it or read the thread.
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Old 24-08-2010, 15:16   #18
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Ours is not a "bluewater boat"....

We've got an Ocean Racer!!! Woo hoo!
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Old 24-08-2010, 15:29   #19
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Any boat can be a "blue water" boat if you sail it in the right direction. As I said elsewhere, it's all about (1) comfort at sea vs conmfort at the dock, and (2) one's indoividual appetite for risk. Mine happens to be low.
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Old 24-08-2010, 16:38   #20
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i'm building a bluewater sunfish in my garage as we speak
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Old 24-08-2010, 16:53   #21
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Old 24-08-2010, 17:04   #22
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Cat 27, possibly

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Ours is a Cal 2-46 and is on one list that some refer to:

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G'day, mates. At the end of the day in regards to crew & what type of boat, it all boils down to "risk" and how much the captain is willing to undertake. Every captain does their own risk assessment (or not) and makes their decision to go to sea (or not). I did my risk assessment when I bought our Mason and have no regrets. Cheers.
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Old 24-08-2010, 17:43   #24
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how about green water?

I have an older (mid 70's) Van de Stadt designed 38' ketch that was built in S. Africa and sailed to Brazil then on to the windward Carib, the east coast of US then europe and back to the east coast via the islands. She needs lots of work, but has been there. So, I guess she fits the bill.
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Old 24-08-2010, 19:02   #25
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My SJ23... blue water.... yea NOT! Heck just in the PS, she can be a handful in increasing winds that blow up all of a sudden. You could call her "tender" and that would be an understatement.

I'm looking for my BW boat, still looking, lots of good choices out there, I've seen some Racers outfitted to BW capable.... heck some of them 21' Vendeglobe thingy's are ocean cruisers... But not with me aboard. Some of the pictures/movies online scare the (4 letter word) out of me!!!!
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As much as i can research my booat it had engine work done in spain when it was called searapith(sp) now i wouldnt take it ou in over 30kn if i could help it. id call it a coastal cruiser/liveaboard. a mear 480 mile run took me nearly five days, 1 mizzen,an outboard ,most of the dishes and all my nerves.
its lack of upkeep come to haunt me!
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I just sold my non BW 26' shoal draft Laguna. I also just purchased my next to last boat, a 28' Ed Monk Jr designed, Shookum built sloop. Great boat to practice on both mechanically and sailmanship wise here in Puget Sound. I know after I'm done with her, I could go BW and trust her (and me), BUT in a few years I'll be ready to begin looking for MY BW last boat.
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I must say, I always have a chuckle at any boat shows where, it would appear (according to the sales pitch), every boat there is capable of blue water, ocean passage cruising. Personally I want a boat to be able to take it, and perform, when the most demand is placed on her, not necessarily the most social cockpit layout or "nicest kitchen" (words that raise the chuckle to a laugh........)
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Amel 53' Been there, done that, crossed the Atlantic, through the Panama Canal, up and down the pacific coast three times and Hawaii and back. I'd call that Blue Water!
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Peterson 44 good in most water colors. Then I wonder would Manry's tinkerbelle been looked upon as a blue water boat. Couldn't have been with that box like cabin trunk. Giles Virtue xxV certainly except for the narrow beam and well that house side. Heresshof alerion mostly no cabin no way a day sailor.Now shackeltons dinghy that was a blue water boat.
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