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Old 20-02-2018, 08:30   #1
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An American Bieker 53 performance cruising cat capsized while racing the Caribbean 600.

Crew rescued and well.


"The highly experienced crew on Fujin from Seattle, Washington, USA include the skipper Greg Slyngstad, the boat's designer, Paul Bieker and Olympic Gold medallist Jonathan McKee."

http://caribbean600.rorc.org/News-20...bbean-600.html
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An American Bieker 53 performance cruising cat capsized while racing the Caribbean 600.

Crew rescued and well.


"The highly experienced crew on Fujin from Seattle, Washington, USA include the skipper Greg Slyngstad, the boat's designer, Paul Bieker and Olympic Gold medallist Jonathan McKee."

http://caribbean600.rorc.org/News-20...bbean-600.html
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Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Maybe it looks better upside down?
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Damn.. they're ripping off Jimmy Wharrams design..
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Re: big performance cruising cat capsizes

I’m not surprised as virtually all photos of them underway on the internet show them lifting a hull - hardly appropriate for a ‘cruising cat’, IMO. No doubt the designer and builder refer to cruising as well as performance in order to increase sales, but really?
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I’m not surprised as virtually all photos of them underway on the internet show them lifting a hull - hardly appropriate for a ‘cruising cat’, IMO. No doubt the designer and builder refer to cruising as well as performance in order to increase sales, but really?
No, the owner and the builder see the boat as a performance cruiser that would be used for cruising and to do some racing:

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At least I think it's exciting. We'll be launching the Bieker 53, Fujin, around the end of May. .....
I have been racing and cruising for 25+ years (mostly racing) and we wanted a boat that would do both well with an emphasis on performance. ...

She has two double staterooms, two single berths, two heads, a full galley and inside seating area, two Yanmar 3YM30s, electric winches, a rotating mast, lots of solar and no generator....
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The boat will be towed and recovered but a very unfortunate situation for owner of an almost new sailboat. I hope all goes well with the boat recovery. I wish him the best of luck and I can only imagine what he should be feeling
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Sorta cool looking in its own way, looks like it will boogy..to bad about the flip.
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Polux, I still think any cat designed to fly a hull is NOT appropriate for and should not be confused with a cruising cat, except perhaps by those who wish to denigrate the stability of cruising cats in general.
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lets face it, americans really do not know about cats. Too many capsizes and failed projects.

My advice : stick with monohulls.
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I wish him the best of luck and I can only imagine what he should be feeling
He is thinking " I should have bought a Lagoon....."

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Re: big performance cruising cat capsizes

Almost any boat raced can be capzised if pushed beyond a certain limit.

I'm pretty sure if you sail Fujin conservative and responsibly in cruising mode she is pretty seaworthy and save.
If you race you are sometimes making a conscious decision to push past a limit, and that can go wrong.
Nothing wrong with that if you are aware of your decisions.

Capsizing is not always and automatically a design or build flaw.
Neither is it automatically a factor to quantify sea worthiness.
Even on designs pushing the envelope.
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Have known people strip the inside of their boats for racing.. even take out the toilet.
Doubt very much she'd do that loaded to cruise by the average person here.. watermakers, tools, dive tanks, generators, and back ups for back ups..
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Polux, I still think any cat designed to fly a hull is NOT appropriate for and should not be confused with a cruising cat, except perhaps by those who wish to denigrate the stability of cruising cats in general.












They are all performance cruising cats and they are all flying a hull.

Flying a hull or not on a performance cruising cat, if there is enough wind, it is a question of the sail the sailors decide to carry.

If they were sailing with less sail they would not being flying a hull.
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Polux, you nailed it with the last phrase. It's a choice. And it depends on if you want to win a race and take risks or if you want to arrive safe and sail accordingly.
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He is thinking " I should have bought a Lagoon....."

I'd bet he isn't.
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