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Old 06-04-2011, 17:59   #16
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Re: Beached Schooner on Fire Island

Being a steel hull is probably what saved her from too much damage. They just need to get her out of the sand and cleaned up from what I can tell.
Hopefully they secured the hatches before walking away.
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Re: Beached Schooner on Fire Island

del, two hatches were torn off and she is full of water and sand.
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She will most likely be cut up for scrap.
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Yes, it's sad to see this boat you sailed on end up this way. But, it sounds like it inspired you to sail on and follow your dream. So that's a good memory. I think we all have those magical moments on boats that we will always remember and set our courses in life differently. I think it's kind of sad Le Papillon will be cut up for scrap though. I think about when my girlfriend drags me out for a vacation out on the beach in Ammagansett about forty miles east of this of this incident. Every couple of years storms uncover the remains of a long ago shipwrecked wooden schooner for a awhile until the sands cover it up again. Like a ghost reminding us of the past. Once this boat is removed there will be no such reminders that it was ever there.
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Old 07-04-2011, 09:58   #20
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Re: Beached Schooner on Fire Island

according to the article, his parents did not give permission to take the vessel out. such a tragedy for a fine boat due to irresponsible seamanship. running the coastline and not even keeping watch? i bet daddy was impressed
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Re: Beached Schooner on Fire Island

I hope somebody shovels her out and drags her back out to sea. Put some natch covers on her, shovel her on several tides, and she will sail again. Metal boats are tough, and Colvin designed some of the best. I had one of his designs for ten years. This pinky is a fantastic boat. The kid should be keel hauled. What a dork.
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Old 07-04-2011, 10:29   #22
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Re: Beached Schooner on Fire Island

Unless the hull has been compromised, surly it can be repaired. At todays cost to build I would think it would be worth it to salvage. As long as it doesn't sit there too long.

I would put the kids to work!
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Kids.....Work? OxyMORON kinda like military intelligence and jumbo...shrimp.
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Kids.....Work? OxyMORON kinda like military intelligence and jumbo...shrimp.
I think after running that boat aground after taking it out without asking, work would be a far better alternative for them than what they deserve.
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I think after running that boat aground after taking it out without asking, work would be a far better alternative for them than what they deserve.
Agree 100% Then if it's successfully refloated, they should get to learn how to do restoration work.
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Maybe those kids can get in the bilge with small shovels and pails, then dig all around her so she can be floated on the next tide. Right. All kidding aside, it's a shame this boat has come to such a sad state. What they need is a lot of volunteer hands and a backhoe to dig around her when the tide is out, a couple of sturdy kedges and long lines. I know the general area and there's a lot of beach there for quite a while so there's time to get her floated if someone has the tenacity to get er done.
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Re: Beached Schooner on Fire Island

If they can do it with huge old Navy cruisers, I would think a pleasure craft would be fairly EZ. USN Ships--USS Northern Pacific (1917-1919) -- Stranding, January 1919


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If they can do it with huge old Navy cruisers, I would think a pleasure craft would be fairly EZ. USN Ships--USS Northern Pacific (1917-1919) -- Stranding, January 1919


You are ignoring the cost involved. Even if the hull is not damaged, the salvage costs begin to approach the present value. I think she will be cut up.

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Re: Beached Schooner on Fire Island

best bet would be a couple of catapillars and drag her up the beach,then put it on a trailer
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