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Old 27-09-2014, 16:32   #526
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Cats must be magical.
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Cats must be magical.
You are just jealous........

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Cats must be magical.
They are, of course. Cat’s purring makes the home warm and cosy, You know...
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...Cat’s purring makes...
...me sneeze!
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...me sneeze!

Cats, cats, cats....

You know, Terra Nova, I really can not understand why some call the boat with two hulls a cat...

For me the boat should have four, much shorter hulls to be a cat - two forward and two back.
Cats are four-legged animals...

At least the constructors of the snow cats got it right!

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Old 28-09-2014, 09:30   #531
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Cats must be magical.
They do seem to be in a class of their own...
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Holy!! I Just spent 9 days out on real water sailing a multihull up and down the coast and around Vancouver Island. I found that sailing on a lake vrs the ocean is like night and day. Sailing my Cola Cooler around the lake is really gonna suck now. I'm seriously in the market for a Catamaran if anyone has one for around $60k.
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Holy!! I Just spent 9 days out on real water sailing a multihull up and down the coast and around Vancouver Island. I found that sailing on a lake vrs the ocean is like night and day. Sailing my Cola Cooler around the lake is really gonna suck now. I'm seriously in the market for a Catamaran if anyone has one for around $60k.
You cante apprecitate the performanse of cats untille you spende time becomming competient in tradititionale botes.
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What are botes?

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my observations/experiences...only
I loved sailing my friends 23 tri..hobie 18 split and 23ft center hull made in Michigan bolted in the middle, in west palm in the late '70's, man that thing was fun and fast...
my 40yr old mono is beautiful, fast for a mono, shoal 4' draft ,stable,.. and most of all cheap...a 10th the cost of a fancy multi...or even less
I would/will never have the change for a multi, I think tri's are awesome cool looking though I've never been on a big one..
In '81 while sailing in the Windwards one day, between a couple of the big islands in the winter trades, big lumpy sea...we encountered a 40 foot production cat, I in my 35' 12000 lb morgan cb sloop with a working jib and a double reefed main...hull speed+ everywhere we went...the cat never caught up or passed us...I was surprised, then realized she was loaded for cruising...
In the winter of '81 I was mate/crew on a SA built 52' cat...we took 20 guests from St Martin to St Barts and return day trip... , what a blast hanging off the backstay and watching the knotmeter hit 18 in the gusts..!...a 40 minute ride...
anchored one nite in the exumas next to a smallish tri..perhaps 29 ft...towering thunder squalls came in from the west at 2 am and exposed us to rock lee shore...50+ knot gusts...scary...I watched that tri go airborne on its rode in one big gust, and
I don't like cats going to windward in a big sea...the wind gets under the hulls at the top of a sea in big gusts..unsettling...
Having 2 engines to care for mechanically, with associated shafts struts etc. is not appealing..
a few days ago on the ICW at Johns pass a new 42 ft ish cat, no stick, 6 ft topsides at least.. 2 stories...what 400 grand?...motored by us seemingly on a magic carpet...heard nothing, no movement, it was doing 15+ knots ? 19 ?...and seemed to be on top of the water, not in it...stunning...
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I read these forums almost everyday and I rarely post. I have been saving and casually looking for a vessel for about 3 years now.
I would love to purchase a cat but without a doubt they are much more expensive. My finances will dictate that I get a monohull. I'm ok with this but the room and average draft of a cat will be missed.

However the cost of a well found monohull fairly well equipped will leave me with enough money left over to sail for many years. Purchasing a cat will leave me at the marina working a job for several years until I could afford to go.
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I would love to purchase a cat but without a doubt they are much more expensive. My finances will dictate that I get a monohull. I'm ok with this but the room and average draft of a cat will be missed.
They are not more expensive, there just aren't many choices available in certain price ranges - which I suspect is the case here. You probably can't afford a Swan 60 either, but that doesn't make all monos expensive.

For closely comparable mono/cat, they are essentially equal priced. However, there are many, many more lower priced monos available than lower priced cats.

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They are not more expensive, there just aren't many choices available in certain price ranges - which I suspect is the case here. You probably can't afford a Swan 60 either, but that doesn't make all monos expensive.

For closely comparable mono/cat, they are essentially equal priced. However, there are many, many more lower priced monos available than lower priced cats.

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Perhaps that is the case then because I have not found a reasonably priced cat yet. Will keep my eyes open and ear to the ground but when it's time for me to pull the trigger I gotta decide.
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Perhaps that is the case then because I have not found a reasonably priced cat yet. Will keep my eyes open and ear to the ground but when it's time for me to pull the trigger I gotta decide.

What do you consider a reasonable price? Is it something listed for market value? Is it something listed for way below market value or is something that would be in your price range?


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Should have clarified. Reasonably priced for me. Something in my personal price range. It's the deal breaker. It doesn't matter how wonderful it is if I can't afford it in the first place! Lol. Still have not lost all hope.
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