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Old 23-08-2014, 16:53   #391
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It appears to me that it's simply just more important to multihullers to prove their vessel's worth whereas monohullers are just inherently more comfortable with their choice.
That would be the reason monohull advocates are constantly appearing in the MULTIHULL forum? Yet the reverse seems to be very rare.

Or why in anchorages I constantly get monohull owners visiting, telling me how much better their boats are? But when we visit their boats they constantly apologise for how cramped their cockpits are, how exposed to the wind.....

Fact is, like me, most cat owners have had both, and have made their choice, and are unlikely to ever go back.
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Old 23-08-2014, 17:55   #392
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That would be the reason monohull advocates are constantly appearing in the MULTIHULL forum? Yet the reverse seems to be very rare.

Or why in anchorages I constantly get monohull owners visiting, telling me how much better their boats are? But when we visit their boats they constantly apologise for how cramped their cockpits are, how exposed to the wind.....

Fact is, like me, most cat owners have had both, and have made their choice, and are unlikely to ever go back.
This is the general sailing forum

Well regarding size and crampiness, the solution is a bigger hull. Just like you say cat sailors never go back, bigger mono sailors usually don't either for cruising and living...however nothing beats sailing dinghies for the sheer fun, whether it's a mono or a hobie cat.
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Old 23-08-2014, 23:48   #393
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Re: At The Risk of Starting WWlll

hobie cats are awesome. Had a blast on a 14 footer when I was taking sailing lessons.
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Old 24-08-2014, 02:58   #394
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If you drown a couple are you amas murderer? BIG GROAN.

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So bad it made me laugh.
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Pleasure of sailing and aesthetics the mono wins.
Thats a bit subjective and presumptuous isn't it. I think many monos are ugly and some gorgeous, I think many multis are ugly and some gorgeous.
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Re: At The Risk of Starting WWlll

My only issue with the multi hulls are their initial stability. It's very high, both right side up AND upside down...that's it, my only problem. Honest, and it's an insurmountable problem, you can't undo it except tobuild the cat huge and heavy...well if you are going to do that, might as well build a huge and heavy mono, spend 1/4 of the money and call it a day.
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Old 24-08-2014, 13:50   #397
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My only issue with the multi hulls are their initial stability. It's very high, both right side up AND upside down...that's it, my only problem. Honest, and it's an insurmountable problem, you can't undo it except tobuild the cat huge and heavy...well if you are going to do that, might as well build a huge and heavy mono, spend 1/4 of the money and call it a day.

I understand your issues with multihulls. My issue with monohulls is that they can and will sink, never heard from again. Statically the multi has the same probability of flipping as a mono does of sinking. To me it wasn't a hard choice.


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Actually, "amah" is the Chinese name for an au pair. Not sure if there's any connection though.
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Or why in anchorages I constantly get monohull owners visiting, telling me how much better their boats are? But when we visit their boats they constantly apologise for how cramped their cockpits are, how exposed to the wind.....
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Thats a load of crap.. and any full time cruiser will agree.. the type of boat you own NEVER comes up durring a discussion amoung cruisers.. that only happens on the internet and here on CF.
Your personal choice of boat of use is a personal choice and the line is not crossed or argued amoung cruisers, thats if infact you are a full time cruiser, and not just blowing smoke...
There are a lot of topics that do come up BUT the type of boat you have and how it compairs to your own boat or argueing about one or the other being a multi, mono, full keel, or fin, is kinda Taboo in conversation..

90% of the crap brought forth within the internet forms dont take place in an active cruising world...........................................
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Re: At The Risk of Starting WWlll

omydogsiwillbestrukded-- randy we agree on something.. eeps....scary thought...

90% of the crap brought forth within the internet forms dont take place in an active cruising world...........................................
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omydogsiwillbestrukded-- randy we agree on something.. eeps....scary thought...

90% of the crap brought forth within the internet forms dont take place in an active cruising world...........................................
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Thats a load of crap.. and any full time cruiser will agree.. the type of boat you own NEVER comes up durring a discussion amoung cruisers.. that only happens on the internet and here on CF.
Your personal choice of boat of use is a personal choice and the line is not crossed or argued amoung cruisers, thats if infact you are a full time cruiser, and not just blowing smoke...
There are a lot of topics that do come up BUT the type of boat you have and how it compairs to your own boat or argueing about one or the other being a multi, mono, full keel, or fin, is kinda Taboo in conversation..

90% of the crap brought forth within the internet forms dont take place in an active cruising world...........................................
This hasn't been our experience in the past 6 years out cruising full time. We have been amazed and dismayed at the number of people we have barely just met who immediately ask us what type of boat we have and then start ranting on about how dangerous multihulls are. Some of these people get downright incensed and angry about multihulls. They are all mono people (obviously, given the topic).

Really. Not just one or two, but lots. Enough that we now joke about it. More than anyone having strong feelings about engine makes, electric winches, watermakers, windgens, gensets, etc. At first we were shocked and a bit taken aback, but now we look forward to it because it humors us so.

In the most recent example, the person got all red and started yelling at me about multihulls. Claimed his friends flipped their cruising cat three times just in the protected waters of Belize! I asked what kind of cat it was and he couldn't remember. I asked what size it was and he said "big". I asked what the name of the boat was and he couldn't remember. I asked what the name of his friend was and he got very mad and said he couldn't remember off-hand, then accused me of using these questions to call him a liar.

I was, of course…

So I call crap on your calling crap! It happens all the time to us. I imagine that having a monohull, though, it doesn't happen ever to you.

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Mark, you're just going to have to learn not to provoke boaters everywhere you go.
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So I call crap on your calling crap! It happens all the time to us. I imagine that having a monohull, though, it doesn't happen ever to you.

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Wow Mark...... I honestly never thought that some cruisers could be so insensitive, crass and stupid to ever criticise another man's yacht to his face. I love all yachts and if it brings the owners pleasure I celebrate that with them

If they have problems, I commiserate, make suggestions but always respect their commitment to their chosen design .

Multihulls are generally a higher investment per ton than monohull's have superior living spaces, better comfort at anchor.... and many other pluses....so what is not to admire?

This tongue and cheek thread is like trying to justify what type of woman you should fall in love with.....

Totally unnecessary and who cares as long as you are capable of that love.
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...so what is not to admire?...
Now there's something we can really sink out teeth into.

Who wants to go first?
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