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Old 21-07-2014, 11:36   #301
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He didn't say it was no good, only that it was homemade/DIY.
You inferred that as being 'no good', so maybe ask yourself the same question.

Production boats use female molds and are made of fiberglass because it is the fastest way to make the same boat more than once.

Wood will rot if not taken care of, so how good the boat is depends entirely on how well it was built and then how well it was maintained.
Don't confuse inferring with asking. Maybe you didn't notice the ? after the question.
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Don't confuse inferring with asking. Maybe you didn't notice the ? after the question.
Have you stopped beating your wife?
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Lmao....where did that come from? Oh I see, you're in northern california.
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Is that a DIY or a Production female mold question? )
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Is that a DIY or a Production female mold question? )
Lmao...
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How about a cartoon response?
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How about a cartoon response?
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Think mono has a 30% to 50% of its displacement locked in the ballast. Read wasted. So, at the outset, a multi is a 30% to 50% more of a boat.

I think the future of cruising and sailing is all about the multi world. A mono is the dinosaur.

But with such a huge stock of aging monos, we will never ever run out of them. With time, they may become collectables. Perhaps buy a couple now and sell them in 100 years or so and you will have enough cruising kitty to take you rtw a couple of times, in your multi.

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Have you stopped beating your wife?
Reminds me of this one:

-Professor, is it true, that you are beating your wife?
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Think mono has a 30% to 50% of its displacement locked in the ballast. Read wasted. So, at the outset, a multi is a 30% to 50% more of a boat.
Oh..I don't know..... been in a few storms with major breaking seas ....where I thought that heavy foot, low in the water, was not wasted....
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Think mono has a 30% to 50% of its displacement locked in the ballast. Read wasted. So, at the outset, a multi is a 30% to 50% more of a boat.

I think the future of cruising and sailing is all about the multi world. A mono is the dinosaur.

But with such a huge stock of aging monos, we will never ever run out of them. With time, they may become collectables. Perhaps buy a couple now and sell them in 100 years or so and you will have enough cruising kitty to take you rtw a couple of times, in your multi.

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And that brings us back to the "what is a cruiser?" war.

I used to agree with this 100%, but after much reflection I've modified it to this:

"In the kinds of shallow and protected seas that are widely popular for cruising, and where the cruiser has the means and desire to own and cruise in a boat above a certain size/price point, there is no question that the mono has become a dinosaur"

Below a certain size/price point, and/or in some kinds of seas the Mono still holds a strong attraction. I'd rather live aboard a 32' monohull than a 32' multihull.

And then there is the battle about whether a cruiser is a sailor and vice-versa.... a battle I like to exit with the line that this is called the "Cruisers" forum, not the "Sailors" forum.
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And that brings us back to the "what is a cruiser?" war.

I used to agree with this 100%, but after much reflection I've modified it to this:

"In the kinds of shallow and protected seas that are widely popular for cruising, and where the cruiser has the means and desire to own and cruise in a boat above a certain size/price point, there is no question that the mono has become a dinosaur"

Below a certain size/price point, and/or in some kinds of seas the Mono still holds a strong attraction. I'd rather live aboard a 32' monohull than a 32' multihull.

And then there is the battle about whether a cruiser is a sailor and vice-versa.... a battle I like to exit with the line that this is called the "Cruisers" forum, not the "Sailors" forum.

Out of curiosity what is your experience with both monohulls and catamarans.


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.."Think mono has a 30% to 50% of its displacement locked in the ballast. Read wasted. So, at the outset, a multi is a 30% to 50% more of a boat."

Huh? And you think this because what?

Don't get me wrong,I used to have a 46 ft catamaran. I don't buy into that mono vs multi debate.

For me, multis are great as are monos. Neither are perfect unless they are 100ft LOA with a paid crew of 4 to cater for your every whim.
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Out of curiosity what is your experience with both monohulls and catamarans.


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... which is not to say that someday I might be discover a 32' multihull that will change my mind. For example, I'm looking forward to seeing a Seawind 1000 someday.


My experience is short periods of liveaboard on a few different 30+ monohull boats, and having visited about a dozen or so different liveaboard designs, many with the occupants onboard.

Additionally, I have years of fulltime "cruising" experience aboard almost every classification of camping trailer and motorhome.

I've sailed a few small sport catamarans, and am looking forward to sailing a cruising-class catamaran, as well as the day when I am able to live aboard one on a full-time basis.

Most catamaran liveaboards and sailors I've visited have both catamaran and monohull experience, but they universally have agreed, in my experience, that the multihulls provide a superior experience.

I've visited several smaller designs (and their occupants) including Gemini, PDQ, and another similar model that I can never remember but is just like the PDQ. Though clever in design and possessing a number of nice features, I would not want to liveaboard one of them on a full time basis.

I recently have seen a 35' model that I was very close to bidding on, but it was sold before I did... honestly, I did not think it would sell... I need to look up the name of that one, it was amazingly comfortable for it's size.
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... which is not to say that someday I might be discover a 32' multihull that will change my mind. For example, I'm looking forward to seeing a Seawind 1000 someday.


My experience is short periods of liveaboard on a few different 30+ monohull boats, and having visited about a dozen or so different liveaboard designs, many with the occupants onboard.

Additionally, I have years of fulltime "cruising" experience aboard almost every classification of camping trailer and motorhome.

I've sailed a few small sport catamarans, and am looking forward to sailing a cruising-class catamaran, as well as the day when I am able to live aboard one on a full-time basis.

Most catamaran liveaboards and sailors I've visited have both catamaran and monohull experience, but they universally have agreed, in my experience, that the multihulls provide a superior experience.

I've visited several smaller designs (and their occupants) including Gemini, PDQ, and another similar model that I can never remember but is just like the PDQ. Though clever in design and possessing a number of nice features, I would not want to liveaboard one of them on a full time basis.

I recently have seen a 35' model that I was very close to bidding on, but it was sold before I did... honestly, I did not think it would sell... I need to look up the name of that one, it was amazingly comfortable for it's size.
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