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Old 06-07-2016, 15:44   #31
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Re: Anything wrong with shore-hugging?

Originally Posted by Dockhead View Post
As others have said, the most dangerous thing to a boat is the land, especially in areas where you have shallow water and the bad sea states which can occur there. So the further offshore, the better, so long as you are not so far as to make it too hard to get into a harbor if you need to. When I'm sailing along a coast, I really prefer to stay out of sight of land if possible without a big detour, and only at about 20 miles off do I start to relax a little. Close inshore you have all kinds of hazards -- small traffic, fishing gear, fishing boats, shallow water, lee shores, horrible sea states when wind blows against tide in shallow water, etc., etc., etc.

The other thing I would say about your plan is that a series of 100 mile day sails is an exhausting way to make miles. It takes me, personally a day or more to start to get into the rhythm of being on passage and start to really enjoy it. Even if you're not in a hurry, you might find it more pleasant to make a few longer passages of two or three days each, then just gunkhole around for a while, before making the next one. You'll be better rested and you'll get to see a few areas in depth, rather than just tying up at night and casting off in the morning. Another great advantage of this is that it gives you much more power to pick your weather. I, personally, like to "make hay when the sun is shining" -- sail and don't stop when conditions are good and you have a fair breeze, and spend time in port only when the weather is less than ideal.

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Re: Anything wrong with shore-hugging?

Originally Posted by Kayoko Monk 33 View Post
Watch for outgoing tides at some of the inlets, you can sail for hrs and make zero headway while trying to enter against the tide and flow, tacking back and forth, electronics read zero headway while the knot log says you're doing 6 or more knots, tacking practice.
This is true. It is also true that at slack tide there can be no current at all. As a rule you want to be heading into a very weak current, easier to control the boat with water flowing over the rudder.

Check the tide charts for slack tide, life will be easier.

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Re: Anything wrong with shore-hugging?

Here is an accident report that highlights the danger of shore hugging. Shallow water plus 1 in 100 or 1 in 1000 wave led to major capsize and loss of life.
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Re: Anything wrong with shore-hugging?

I have explained to non sailing friends about a thousand times it seems: Though you FEEL safer when the land is close enough to see the houses you are actually LESS safe there. Boats dont sink very easily out in the ocean. Generally, they only sink because they bump into the stuff around the edges of it. I am nervous close to land and that goes double for a shallow coast like the SE. I would try to follow a depth contour rather than a distance off. I dont want to be close enough to have to worry about floating stuff, shoals, tidal flows (ferocious on the coast in some spots) or the much bigger boat traffic close to land. I had my boat last summer in Brunswick, GA which is a fine place to stop but where it takes a couple of hours to get out to where you can turn up or down the coast. Most other inlets around there are much the same. In 36 hours (a day, a night and a day) you can make 200 miles. Check out the charts to see how far you can get in that time from wherever you jump off.
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Re: Anything wrong with shore-hugging?

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I'm with Mystic 38, to a degree. If you are a great student of weather, by all means, point yourself at the Cape Fear entrance and cruise!

Whether you take it in small bites or make the long leap, you will have a wonderful experience. Wishing you well.

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Nicely done, reminds me of an old John Wayne movie. May I add what we received from the cruisers of Nightwind:
(it is very long, All U Get)


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Although there are some very attractive areas on the ICW in Georgia, we have chosen to go on the outside through this area the last few years due to shoals and very poor maintenance of the waterway in the state.Also, there are some very good inlets and nice anchorages along the Georgia coast.This provides lots of options if the weather gets bad or you just decide to go a little slower.We are usually in a hurry to get to South Florida in order to jump across the Gulf Stream to the Bahamas or head further south to the Florida Keys.Therefore, our preferred route is to do two overnights sailing directly from Hilton Head to Lake Worth or break it up into two individual overnights.If we do two individual overnights, we first sail from Hilton Head to St. Augustine and then from St. Augustine to Lake Worth after a day or two of enjoying this beautiful town.A third option is to sail from Hilton Head to St. Simons Island in daylight, then from St. Simons to St. Augustine in daylight, and finally to do one overnight to Lake Worth. We have also sailed to FernandinaBeach or St Augustine and then stayed on the ICW through northern and central Florida all the way to Lake Worth when the weather was questionable on the outside.The options are numerous.

In April of 2010 we tried something new. All the cruising guides we had read warned that Ponce Inlet was poor and should be avoided.Therefore, we have never considered entering it despite it being at a great spot to break up a cruise to South Florida and also avoid some shallow water on the ICW between St Augustine and NewSmyrnaBeach.In 2010 we were making good time and did not want to slow down in order to enter St Augustine in daylight.We continued to Ponce inlet as the tides and winds were favorable.We had a SE wind of about 15kts and entered an hour before high tide.We stayed close to the north jetty until we got to its western end then made a sharp turn to the south following the tempory markers and rejoined the ICW near the Coast Guard station.We were surprised at how easy the entry was as the depths along the jetty were 26 to 30 feet and only dropped to about 13 feet where the tempory markers were placed.We continued down the ICW and dropped the hook 5 miles south of Titusville near the north side of the SpaceCenterCausewayBridge.The trip from Hilton Head to the anchorage took less than 36 hours and saved us at least a day and some potential aggravation.We would definitely use the Ponce inlet again as long as the conditions were favorable.

If you need to seek shelter or just get tired, keep in mind that Georgia has several good inlets leading to secure anchorages along its coast.We have sailed into WassauSound, St. Catherine's Sound, Sapelo Sound, St. Simons Sound, and the St. Mary's River at various times.

The distance from Skull Creek Marina on Hilton Head Island to the Walburg Creek anchorage off St. Catherine's Sound is approximately 45 nautical miles.Several years ago we bumped near the outer markers directly in the center of the channel at a very low tide with choppy seas.We now enter well south of "3" and have had no trouble.The markers may have been moved in 2009 to show the deepest water as they seemed a little different than previous years.Once past the outer buoys, the water is deep all the way to the anchorage.In order to stay in the deepest water, after rounding "9" go to a course of about 258 degrees magnetic and head for the white sand beach.This seems a little strange but the water is good and you can get very close to the shore then follow it around to Walburg Creek.We anchor at approximately 31 40.908 N / 081 09.420 W.The water is quite deep and the holding and protection good.

Approximately 9 nautical miles south of St. Catherine's Sound is the entrance to Sapelo Sound. The WahooRiver anchorage is located about 9.9 miles from the entrance and is very nice and secure.We drop the hook at approximately 31 35.724 N / 081 12.362 W.The wahoo Creek Anchorage is 64 nautical miles from Skull Creek Marina.

The anchorage near the Golden Isles Marina off St.SimonsSound is a long 84 nautical miles from Hilton Head Island.We can usually make it in daylight by leaving at first light and getting some help from the current.The channel up St.SimonsSound is straight and deep as large ships use it to get to Brunswick, GA. The Golden Isles Marina on the FredericaRiver is convenient and the staff friendly.They have a courtesy vehicle and several restaurants on premise.This can change from year to year.However, over the past few years we have elected to anchor just south of the Marina at approximately 31 09.786 N / 081 25.157 W, as we usually get in late and want to head out early.If you get confused with the markers after entering the sound, call the marina on channel 16. They will help you understand the system and keep you in deep water.

The last reliable deep water entrance in Georgia is the St. Mary's River.The well marked channel leads to the Kings Bay Naval Base which is home to some of the nations most potent nuclear submarines.Don't be surprised to see one of the huge black warships in the channel escorted by security craft that ask you to stand off.This channel also leads to the beautiful CumberlandIslandNational Park (to the north) and the delightful town of Fernandina Beach (to the south).Both of these attractions should not be missed.We always stop at FernandinaBeach on our way home from the Bahamas or the Florida Keys for a couple of days.

Cumberland Island was the vacation home of the famous 19th century Carnegie Family. Remnants of Dungeness, their beautiful estate, and a small museum remain. The island was given to the National Park Service and is truly a gem.It is in a completely natural state with numerous paths through the forested areas and a magnificent 20 plus mile long white sand beach with high dunes.Wild horses roam the island as do other animals.The anchorage is protected and deep and there are two dinghy docks provided by the Park Service to tie up to.A small fee ($4.00 per person/2000) is requested for use of the island.Envelopes and a drop box are provided for payment.We usually anchor at approximately 30 46.281 N / 081 28.244 W.

The initial impression of FernandinaBeach is of a somewhat dilapidated industrial town when first seen from the water.Fortunately, this is a false impression as the downtown area is absolutely delightful and is on the doorstep of the completely renovated municipal marina.This facility has a great, competent staff and is extremely cruiser friendly.The marina put in a new boaters lounge in 2009 with a wide screen TV and free internt access.

A new mooring field (20 moorings, 13 are deep water moorings) was opened in 2007 at a very reasonable rate for those not wanting to go to the marina. The fee was $15 per night and includes use of the dinghy dock, showers, and a free pumpout at the marina.The mooring field can be very rough when strong winds conflict with the strong current.

We always try to check into U.S. Customs and Immigration at Fernandina when returning to the U.S. from the Bahamas as the agents are friendly, efficient and accommodating.Just beware this is not a 24 hour port of entry so you may have to wait for clearance.Monday through Friday entry during business hours should provide no problems.There are some great restaurants in this town.Try the MarinaRestaurant, across the street from the municipal marina, for traditional fried seafood.We also thoroughly enjoy Joes Bistro on 2nd Street for a more upscale dining experience.

Fernandina Beach to West Palm Beach on the ICW

Day 1, Fernandina Beach to St. Augustine

If we decide to stay on the ICW to West Palm Beach, we normally go the 55 nautical miles from FernandinaBeach to St Augustine in one day.This takes us about 8 hours.This stretch of the Waterway is relatively easy with few shoals and some interesting sights.We did encounter some low water south of FernandinaBeach near the "1" marker in 2007 and suggest staying well to the west of it.Also, be careful as you cross Nassau Sound near the "46A" as it has been known to shoal in this area.

The SistersCreekBridge just prior to entering the St. Johns River opens on request and is very good about not making boaters wait.The short run across the St. Johns River can be confusing and has strong currents. Make sure you set a course and try not to rely on running the markers alone.

We have often been able to sail from around PineIsland to the St Augustine Inlet as the prevailing winds have been favorable.As you go from the ICW into the area near the St Augustine Inlet be careful not to become confused between the inlet markers and ICW markers.The "60" is an ICW marker and should be taken on your starboard side when heading south.

St. Augustine is a charming historic town and well worth visiting. We normally anchor north of the Bridge of Lions off the old Spanish fort wherever we can find good separation from other boats.Just be sure to stay out of the channel and somewhere between the "6" and bridge.We try to drop the hook at approximately 29 53.783 N / 081 18.563 W.If you are anchoring out, you can use the Municipal Marina facilities and dinghy dock for a small daily fee.We have also enjoyed stayed at the Municipal Marina due to their modern docks and good facilities.This is an easy place to pick up clean fuel. St Augustine is scheduled to install a large mooring field during the summer of 2010 which will eliminate some of the anchorage areas.The price is supposed to be reasonable and include launch service from your boat to town.

Day 2, St. Augustine to the Daytona Beach Area

St. Augustine to Daytona Beach is about 46 nautical miles that takes us between 7 and 8 hours depending on where we decide to anchor, currents, and bridge openings.The area between "80" and "82" at the MantanzasRiver and Inlet has traditionally been subject to shoaling and usually has temporary markers placed to indicate the deepest water.Dredging was done in 2011 and there were no problems when we passed through here in 2012.There are several bridges that need to open on the run to Daytona Beach.We have always been impressed with the efficiency, concern, and politeness of the bridge tenders.

If you are going to spend some time in Daytona Beach, we recommend staying at the Halifax Harbor Marina.This is a beautiful facility that is close to downtown, good restaurants and a West Marine.Depending on how far we want to travel and the height of the tide, we usually anchor right off the ICW Channel near marker "44" or further south in Rockhouse Creek (6.1' entering the anchorage) near the Ponce Inlet.If you decide to anchor off the ICW Channel, remember to go south of "44" before turning northwest in order to stay in deep water.We try to anchor at approximately 29 11.725 N / 081 00.199 W.You will get some rolling action from passing boats at this location but the holding is good and it settles down after dark.

We are always apprehensive about the area around the Ponce Inlet on the ICW. We have consistently seen shallow water and temporary markers between statute mile 839.5 and 840.Be very careful to follow the temporary markers placed between the "1" and "4" in this area.It is also a good idea to plan your trip to pass this area at mid tide or greater.There is a good anchorage at Rockhouse Creek (6.1' entering) southeast of "10".The holding and protection are good in a minimum of 7 feet of water once you get in.We anchor at approximately 29 03.689 N / 080 55.858 W.

Day 3, Daytona Beach Area to Titusville or Melbourne

The run from the Rockhouse Creek anchorage to Titusville is about 31 nautical miles.We generally prefer to continue on to the Melbourne area which is a run of about 66 nautical miles from Rockhouse Creek. This takes us about 9.5 hours at our normal cruising speed of 7 knots.There are several good places to anchor from the Titusville area to the Melbourne area and some good marinas.We have stopped at both the Titusville Municipal Marina and Melbourne Harbor Marina.Both facilities have good attributes but we prefer Melbourne Harbor Marina due to its close walking distance to the shops and restaurants of the delightful town of Melbourne.

There are two places to be cautious as you leave the Rockhouse Creek / Ponce Inlet area heading south. In the past, we have encountered shoaling (6' at low) near "18" and suggested heading close to "19" and then proceeding to the eastern shore prior to turning southeast toward the CoronadoBeachBridge.On our return trip in May of 2010, we went aground at low tide in the channel very close to the "19" due to heavy shoaling.A passing trawler informed us we had over 8 feet of water right off our bow.It appears the deeper water in this area is now closer to the "18".Be careful.After passing under the bridge, also be careful of the water depth between "33" and "37" if you stay on the ICW.We saw 6 foot depths in this area at mid tide in May 2007 and believe the deepest water is nearer the island side of the channel.Our preferred route is to go through the cut on the east side of the island after passing under the bridge. We go to the ICW "33" then follow the inside channel to the 65 foot bridge.We have found this route to be quicker with consistently better depths.

If you do not stop or anchor in Titusville, there are good anchorage possibilities at the AddisonPointBridge which is about 6 nautical miles further south at mile marker 885.There is between 7 and 8 feet of water on all sides of the causeway, so just go to the side that gives you the most protection and drop the hook.

We have also just pulled off the ICW Channel at marker "88" and headed northeast toward the shore and dropped the anchor in about 10 feet of water. Marker "88" is at about statute mile 903.The position we anchored was 28 16.977 N / 080 40.844 W.

If you decide to continue on south of Melbourne, you can anchor off the ICW between the small islands west of "20" in about 7 feet of water. We had a quiet night here in 2007 at approximately 27 59.457 N / 080 32.781 W.

Day 4, Titusville or Melbourne Area to Fort Pierce

We always enjoy the run down the Indian River as the depths are consistent, the shoreline attractive, and we can usually sail or motor sail a good portion of it.The final destination you decide to reach on day 4 is completely open.It depends on how far you progressed on day 3, weather, current, and how much time you wish to spend on the water. There are numerous options as to anchorages, marinas, and a mooring field at Vero Beach to consider when planning your day.Note that it is common to "share" a mooring in Vero Beach so don't be surprised if the harbor master tells you to raft up with another boat on a mooring. Vero is also a good place to take on fuel.

Our normal plan for Day 4 would be to run from wherever we stopped on day 3 to the anchorage area just off the ICW south of the Fort Pierce 65 foot bridge. This sets you up for an easy offshore run to Lake Worth on day 5.It also sets you up for a comfortable motor on the ICW to Lake Worth if the weather does not cooperate.Simply turn northeast by the "188" south of the 65 foot bridge at Causeway Island and follow the channel markers.We usually anchor between the "5" and "9" in about 18 feet of water.The holding is very good here in sand and this is where you first experience the clear aqua blue water of south Florida.

Our preference for day 5, if we stayed on the ICW from St Augustine or Ponce Inlet is to go offshore at Fort Pierce and sail along the coast to Palm Beach.The total distance from the anchorage just south of the Fort PierceBridge to the anchorage we normally use at Lake Worth (Palm Beach) is about 50 nautical miles, which takes us approximately seven hours.Check out the currents at both the Fort Pierce Inlet and Lake Worth Inlet as they can have a dramatic impact on your overall speed and comfort.Favorable currents and good wind allowed us to make the trip from the anchorage at "20" just South of Melbourne to Lake Worth in one 12 hour day in 2007.The total distance was 84.5 nautical miles which meant we averaged 7.4 knots.This was one of those very unusual days where all the elements cooperated.It is not typical

Day 5, Fort Pierce to Lake Worth

As previously mentioned, we prefer to go offshore at Fort Pierce to Lake Worth.The total distance offshore is about 50 nautical miles as opposed to 46.5 nautical miles on the ICW. We find that it is usually quicker and easier to run offshore as you avoid 7 bridges that need to open, a few confusing areas, and quite a bit of boat traffic.The water along the coast in this area is quite deep allowing you to sail close to shore and avoid the north running currents of the Gulf Stream which are as close as 6 miles to shore near Lake Worth.

If you do stay on the inside, there are some attractive areas to see along the way. Depths on the ICW along this stretch are generally good.Beware of the St. Lucie Inlet / St. Lucie River / ICW crossroads starting at "239" as it can be confusing.

Lake Worth offers many good anchoring opportunities as well as modern full service marinas. This is a place where we tend to spend quite a bit of time either resting after a run from the north or south or waiting for a good weather window to proceed to the Bahamas.It is also a natural place to stop on your way to the Florida Keys.You will often see lots of cruisers anchored here waiting for the same weather window you are looking for.The VHF radio is likely to be very active as cruisers discuss weather and the best time to depart.

The holding and protection is generally very good in hard sand throughout Lake Worth.Over the past several years, we have come through the Lake Worth Inlet from the Atlantic and immediately turned southeast following the markers on the western shoreline of Palm Beach.Once past "6", we head a little southwest and drop the hook outside the cable areas at approximately 26 45.382 N / 080 02.634 W. The views of Palm Beach from this anchorage area are delightful and there is good protection from the prevailing winds.Depths run from about 7 to 10 feet.

We have also anchored off the ICW in West Palm Beach south of the two spoil's areas shown on the chart.If using this anchorage, we just go south of the Rybovich Spencer Boatyard and turn east until we get to approximately 26 44.840 N / 080 02.725 W.The holding is good in about 7 feet but you do get some wake action from passing boats on the Waterway.

Several years ago and on our return trip in 2010 we anchored in North Palm Beach while waiting for some cruising friends to arrive.This is a great place to stop when entering Lake Worth from the North off the ICW.Just turn to the northeast near the "27" and closely follow the channel markers until you get past "10".This is an attractive area with very good protection.We once encountered some "bumps" on the sand bottom here at a negative low tide on our previous boat with a 6 foot draft.However, I believe this was not a common occurrence and we had a minimum of 9 feet of water in 2010.I suggest anchoring at approximately 26 50.292 N / 080 03.225 W.

We have stayed at the Cannonsport Marina located on SingerIsland in the past.This Marina was completely rebuilt in 2007 after being severely damaged by the Hurricanes of 2005.The facilities are good and it is an easy walk to grocery stores and some nice restaurants.We found the new fuel dock at this marina to be very easy to use during our 2007 cruise.
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Old 07-07-2016, 05:22   #36
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Re: Anything wrong with shore-hugging?

Done a lot of off-shore trips, but on a larger sailboat. I feel a lot more comfortable being 10-15 miles off shore. There are just too many buoys, fish traps, flowing debris,.. I get being a bit nervous initially, but think after your first 24 hours you will become very comfortable being a bit further off. We would do a 24 hour 'wave/ sawtooth course... by day with good visa biking...closer in. By nightfall another 5mi further off, especially near the shallower off-shore areas already mentioned.

One other note... making frequent port stops really eats up a lot of time. Can easily be 2-3 hrs in and 2-3 hrs back out, even when 'hugging'. So good to plan stores to allow you to keep going if wx window remains good.

Sleep (lack of/ initial stress) comment also very good. We play a game... about every hour or so... we pull a random long division problem out of a hat... like... 417 divided by 32? We keep chart of time it takes to get answer in head (no paper/ pen) and track the time in seconds. You laugh!
But you would be amazed at how this time goes from 15-25 seconds to 2-3 minutes! after a few short sleep nights, especially by crew that usually gets/ needs 8 hrs+ sleep.

And a delicate topic. On longer trips (Chesapeake Bay to St Thomas, USVI), I've seen many instincts where change of sleep & diet can lead to 'digestion back-up' in some cases... severe. Plan meals accordingly and maybe avoid certain foods/ meds (cheese, aspirin,...) and have a over the counter product in the first aid box, just in case. Again I hear some snickers, but you need everyone to be at top of their game, especially if wx takes turn/ something breaks.

Lastly, while your sight line may only be 10 mi or so, your VHF (mast top to mast top) can be 35+ mi. Don't be shy to reach out on ch 16/ 9 to see if you might have northbound company. You'll be surprised just how many other vessels might actually around you! While you don't want to sail side x side, there is some comfort to know there are other vessels to compare wx / check on each other's status/ position... and just in case!

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Re: Anything wrong with shore-hugging?

There is nothing wrong with shore hugging on the passage indicated, Miami to Beaufort.

I have now crossed the Gulf Stream 5 times and each time is 'interesting'. In the most benign weather its still a tad weird. As soon as the weather is not benign its weirdness shoots up the Richter Scale quickly.
Even being close to is you know its there. I flew into New Bern NC and could see it from the plane 20 miles inland by the cloud in and otherwise cloudless sky.

The proposed passage is during hurricane season where the warm water of the Gulf Stream is damn hot, and volitile, just waiting for a air disturbance so the Stream can spin it up into a hurricane.
Thats how nasty it can be.
But on a good day it will give you a nice lift along the coast northwards.
I have forgotten how close the Stream gets to the coast in Florida, but I think I remember 4 miles. Is that correct?
On a nice day jump into it. On a poorer day stay on the shore side of it and coast hug.
When you are in the GS stay just on the shore side edge of it, say 5 nms in it. Then if something happens to the weather its only an hour till you are out of it.

The Gulf Stream is interesting, as is shore hugging and all the different nav stuff dealing with both. So it will be an active and enjoyable cruise.

Have fun.

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I have forgotten how close the Stream gets to the coast in Florida, but I think I remember 4 miles. Is that correct?

As a rule one of the weather channels on VHF (2-9) will broadcast how far off shore the Gulf Stream is; unless they broadcast that information is not available.

It is common for the distance to vary by up to 10 miles, and not unheard of for the distance to vary by 20 miles.
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Re: Anything wrong with shore-hugging?

We did Ft. Pierce to Wilmington, 4 to 12 miles off. Great trip, had to motor some though, the southerlies were light, this was in April. Have fun.
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Re: Anything wrong with shore-hugging?

Thank you for the great advice, and the wonderfully written cruising Florida and Georgia Bight guidance!
We will head close to due north from Miami for Cape Fear on our very next trip.
This trip, we're going to follow your advice, and build up our offshore kung-fu in steps and stages.

Govt. Cut to Lake Worth dawn to dusk sail, 5-8 miles out (not in the G stream, it's about 24 miles off Fowley Rock right now) rest a day, then depending on how we all feel, we'll try a 24-hour to Port Canaveral, or ICW motor to Ft Pierce for another dawn/dusk jump to Canaveral. Hang out a day or two, and decide on 24 hour, 36 hour jump in the 18-20 mile offshore range. Slowly work north, probably alternate some ICW days, and we will rest plenty between hops. Who knows, maybe we'll jump 3 days/nights Jacksonville FL to Cape Fear if weather window and crew are up for it?

Lucky to have this kind of coast near our stomping grounds, to have so many hop options for training and stretching ourselves.

We do respect the weather, as well as the tides/currents.
Really plan on using only sailboat friendly major inlets. I grew up just inside Hatteras and Ocracoke; we're not messin' with these fishing-boat funny-water slots unless there's an emergency.

We'll get there, literally and figuratively.

and we will have fun!

Thank you folks for sharing all of this with us and with everybody on the forum.

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Re: Anything wrong with shore-hugging?

Being to close to shore you will run into the evening thunder storms which are normal this time of year. They generally dissipate quickly once over water.
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Re: Anything wrong with shore-hugging?

We did fort Myers to grand isle a few weeks ago. Straight across, pretty far from shore, deep water. No wind so motored entire way. Except during the middle of the night we would have enough wind to sail. But anyway we had very large thunderstorms every late afternoon offshore. Lightening and rain but only moderate wind. All five days.
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Re: Anything wrong with shore-hugging?

Wow, Katherine, you should publish that post!

Two comments: Given that one of the sea bouys from the Georgia coast (We haven't been able to figure out which one) has been sitting in Walburg Creek behind St. Catherine's Island, blinking away, for about a year now, one that is charted as in St. Catherine's Sound has been missing for at least ten years, and lots of houses in my community use salvaged navigational bouys to display their house numbers, I wouldn't promise anything on bouys being where they are charted. Second, I love AIS, it does all your collision course calculations for you, and it tells you who to call, and I wouldn't go to sea without it, but it's not too good at helping you avoid objects that don't have AIS, like most bouys, logs, and recreational boats, so I also think that there continues to be a role for radar and for the Mark I eyeball, aided by a good pair of night (7x50) glasses. When you go by King's Bay, remember that nuclear submarines do not run AIS... they run Coast Guard boats with manned machine guns.
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Old 08-07-2016, 14:01   #44
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Re: Anything wrong with shore-hugging?

I'm listening to everybody talk about the difficulties of sailing close to shore, and the difficulties of sailing out in the deeps, and that got me thinking that the easiest thing to do might be to put the boat on a trailer and cruise down I-95
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Re: Anything wrong with shore-hugging?

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I'm listening to everybody talk about the difficulties of sailing close to shore, and the difficulties of sailing out in the deeps, and that got me thinking that the easiest thing to do might be to put the boat on a trailer and cruise down I-95
Remember to watch for trailer trucks, they usually get a closer to you than other boats!😈

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