Originally Posted by canucksailor
Ok, so how about these thoughts...any boat out at anchor must be capable of moving under its own power? If someone is aboard, must be either pumped out, with a receipt, every two, three, four weeks? If long term storage
, the boat must be checked on (with verification to the local government
or designated individual such as a dockmaster) every two, three four, eight weeks?
Boat decks must be reasonably clear of clutter, boat must meet certain standards (how to set those standards?)
What other thoughts seem reasonable to you?
Here are my thoughts -
Let me caveat my posting
by stating that I find it interesting that you started the thread about Sunset Lake and Karlton and are now focusing on boaters/non-boaters who irritate
other boaters and homeowners. While I have no love for a bully homeowner, I have even less for someone who inflames a problem in an attempt to solve a problem.
I will also state that my boat is my home, has been my home, and will continue to be my home, and people that think like you pose a serious threat to my lifestyle and happiness. I pay 1500.00 to rent two docks and when I pass by the anchored (at no charge) sailboat with laundry
on the rigging
and a few stains on the hull
I smile because I know that whoever owns that boat is doing what he or she loves and has the inherent right to do it.
Now, in reply to your posting
Are you serious? If so, you need to get a dose of reality and start considering the myriad of reasons as to why a particular boat may have started to violate your
version of appearance and operational standards. There are many others reasons other than those of simple abandonment and neglect.
By the way, just who would pay for the enforcement efforts of such a plan?
Like other facets of life, the "few" cause problems for the "many" - it is part of the daily grind. If you don't like what you see, move on until you like what you see. It won't be as hard as you think - unless you want it to be.
Why in the heck would you want to levy more regulations
and laws on a lifestyle where plenty of laws already exist that do nothing more than harass, irritate, and limit freedom of movement and one's ability to enjoy the lifestyle - warts and all?
Boaters vs. "non-boaters" (AKA boat owners with social issues) - that's it, lets arrange more social support (AKA socialism) and make those of us who don't have issues pay for the problems of those that do...then we will all be the same, right?
What about the single
guy/gal living/cruising aboard an "immaculate" boat who fell ill and was hospitalized for several weeks/months and was unable to pump-out on schedule, move the boat on schedule, or even clean the algae off the hull
? You really want to tow it and chain it to a dock
What about a family living aboard
where the wage earners lost
their jobs and are trying like heck to keep things together? (Read the papers lately? - there is more of it coming) - are you going to send the harbor patrol to tell these people that they can no longer live aboard and must report to the local social services office just after they pay a fine to have their boat disposed of?
I could go on and on...I guess the response to the two situations above is simply to say that those people were not "real" boaters/sailors because they failed to plan for every possible problem in life. And since they failed to do so they must be regulated and punished. Yeah, right.
I have to apologize to others who might be offended at my posting - but I find it incredulous to visit a site dedicated to enjoying cruising and find someone who wants to make it harder to enjoy such a lifestyle by enacting more laws and regulations
. Healthy debate and opinions are all good - but it is a very slippery slope to demand more laws.
Sure, there are derelicts and shanty town anchorages
. Its part of the package. Its the same with the people who complain about the iguanas and parrots in Ft. Laud - If you don't like it, move on til you find a place you do like. There already are laws in place (in FL) that address derelicts and others.
Sewage always seems to be the catalyst and deciding factor when targeting untidy boaters - if you added up all the overboard head
flushes in a week from Ft Laud to Key West
you wouldn't come near the total daily amount of sewage dumped by the leak at the south end of the canal on Isle of Venice which has been there over 5 years now. I grew up in S. Fla where at one time you could free dive off the beaches in less than 10' of water
and snag lobster and snapper without effort - now those reefs
are dead and sterile due to rainwater runoff and ocean sewage dumping from six outfalls in Dade, Broward, and Palm Beach counties. If you want to fight for a cause, choose that one!
I know it sucks to have to see things that make you mad (dirty boats and indigent boaters). I don't think your efforts are evil, I just find them patently offensive, but nonetheless, you are entitled to your views and ideas just like all others.