Cruisers Forum
 

Go Back   Cruisers & Sailing Forums > The Fleet > General Sailing Forum
Cruiser Wiki Click Here to Login
Register Vendors FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Log in

Reply
  This discussion is proudly sponsored by:
Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about their products on Cruisers Forums. Advertise Here
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Rate Thread Display Modes
Old 05-08-2011, 13:11   #1
Registered User
 
Soundbounder's Avatar

Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Long Island Sound
Boat: Bristol 30
Posts: 296
An Update on the Ship Discovered at Ground Zero

It can now be said that the vessel was about 50 feet long. Thirty-two feet of the stern were exposed last year, 10 to 15 feet amidships were lost long ago and three to six feet of the stem were exposed on Friday. The remnants were left in place over the weekend so that Dr. Riess could inspect them. They were then taken to the AKRF office at 440 Park Avenue South to be readied for shipment to the Center for Maritime Archaeology and Conservation at Texas A&M University.

A dendrochronological examination of wood samples by Columbia University has already disclosed that the trees almost certainly grew in the Philadelphia area and were cut down no later than the 1770s.


The World Trade Center Ship, From Stern to Stem - NYTimes.com
Soundbounder is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-08-2011, 13:38   #2
Registered User
 
Unicorn Dreams's Avatar

Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Clear Lake Marine Services - Seabrook, Texas
Boat: Gulfstar, Mark II Ketch, 43'
Posts: 2,359
Re: An Update on the Ship Discovered at Ground Zero

Sounds interesting.

Don't know if it's my slow connection or not, bur link isn't working for me..
__________________
Formerly Santana
The winds blow true,The skies stay blue,
Everyday is a good day for SAILING!!!!
Unicorn Dreams is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-08-2011, 13:42   #3
Registered User
 
scook1's Avatar

Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Bourbonnais, Illinois
Boat: McGregor venture 15 "IMP"
Posts: 506
Re: An Update on the Ship Discovered at Ground Zero

This is quite interesting! I had no idea that the Hudson once flowed there.
Spencer
__________________
Live in the sunshine, swim the sea, drink the wild air…
-Ralph Waldo Emerson
scook1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-08-2011, 14:09   #4
Registered User
 
Unicorn Dreams's Avatar

Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Clear Lake Marine Services - Seabrook, Texas
Boat: Gulfstar, Mark II Ketch, 43'
Posts: 2,359
Re: An Update on the Ship Discovered at Ground Zero

Guess my connection got better.

That's a really interesting story, hope to here more..
__________________
Formerly Santana
The winds blow true,The skies stay blue,
Everyday is a good day for SAILING!!!!
Unicorn Dreams is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-08-2011, 14:15   #5
Registered User
 
Blue Stocking's Avatar

Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: St. Georges, Bda
Boat: Rhodes Reliant 41ft
Posts: 4,131
Re: An Update on the Ship Discovered at Ground Zero

Being involved in this type of research around here, has led me to believe, as strange as it sounds, that these old ships were sometimes disposed of unceremoniously, like we do with cars today.
__________________
so many projects--so little time !!
Blue Stocking is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-08-2011, 17:27   #6
Registered User
 
Soundbounder's Avatar

Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Long Island Sound
Boat: Bristol 30
Posts: 296
Re: An Update on the Ship Discovered at Ground Zero

Some photos from when it was originally excavated

Historic 18th century wooden ship unearthed at new World Trade Centre site | Mail Online
Soundbounder is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-08-2011, 05:27   #7
Registered User
 
Blue Stocking's Avatar

Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: St. Georges, Bda
Boat: Rhodes Reliant 41ft
Posts: 4,131
Re: An Update on the Ship Discovered at Ground Zero

Judging by the variety of loose items found, I'd say sailors have suffered from things falling into the bilges, for a long time.
__________________
so many projects--so little time !!
Blue Stocking is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-08-2011, 06:27   #8
Registered User
 
VirtualVagabond's Avatar

Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Australia
Boat: CT 54... for our sins!
Posts: 2,083
Re: An Update on the Ship Discovered at Ground Zero

I'm just waiting for the inevitable newbie...

"If I can get it cheap, would it be a good liveaboard while I do it up?... I've got $5,000..."
__________________
One must live the way one thinks, or end up thinking the way one lives - Paul Bourget

www.windwanderer.weebly.com
VirtualVagabond is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-08-2011, 16:03   #9
Moderator Emeritus
 
hummingway's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Gabriola Island & Victoria, British Columbia
Boat: Cooper 416 Honeysuckle
Posts: 6,933
Images: 5
Re: An Update on the Ship Discovered at Ground Zero

Quote:
Originally Posted by Blue Stocking View Post
Being involved in this type of research around here, has led me to believe, as strange as it sounds, that these old ships were sometimes disposed of unceremoniously, like we do with cars today.
I remember when the story first came out. They were discussing the fact that many boats were cut up and used as land fill etc. At the time they didn't realise just how old this ship is.
__________________
“We are the universe contemplating itself” - Carl Sagan

hummingway is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-08-2011, 16:24   #10
Registered User
 
Blue Stocking's Avatar

Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: St. Georges, Bda
Boat: Rhodes Reliant 41ft
Posts: 4,131
Re: An Update on the Ship Discovered at Ground Zero

This is known to be quite common. Here in Bermuda, at least 2 have been examined in the fill behind the enlarged area of the seawalls at the Royal Navy Dockyard.
Bermuda built ships, constructed of Bermuda Cedar, Juniperus Bermudiana, were popular with the Royal Navy because of the woods inherent resistance to teredo worms.
Two famous Bermuda built sloops, one the Pickle, carried word of Nelson's victory at Trafalgar, back to London. The other, can't remember the name, was the ship on which Francis Scott Keyes was being held, from which he saw "the rocket's red glare".
Fascinating stuff.
__________________
so many projects--so little time !!
Blue Stocking is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-08-2011, 16:32   #11
Moderator Emeritus
 
hummingway's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Gabriola Island & Victoria, British Columbia
Boat: Cooper 416 Honeysuckle
Posts: 6,933
Images: 5
Re: An Update on the Ship Discovered at Ground Zero

It's a bit ironic that now we build replicas of ships once used for landfill!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Pickle_(1800)
__________________
“We are the universe contemplating itself” - Carl Sagan

hummingway is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
How to Ship Flares from USA to Phuket gjeff Health, Safety & Related Gear 6 28-07-2011 17:32
DIY Copper Lightning Ground Plate - How Thick ? sv.Crake Construction, Maintenance & Refit 4 13-07-2011 14:46
Hostage Update GordMay Indian Ocean & Red Sea 1 07-07-2011 05:15

Advertise Here


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 14:55.


Google+
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Social Knowledge Networks
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.

ShowCase vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.