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Old 13-08-2016, 07:38   #121
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I gotta change the radio and tv stations I've been listening to.

Can you recommend some that don't systemically, insidiously, and thoroughly marginalize older well to do whites?
Lol- you SERIOUSLY think old well to do white guys are marginalized in our culture? This reveals just how profoundly out of touch you are with what it is to be genuinely marginalized. Hint: its a lot more impactful than being bothered by a couple radio stations. We've got a real Marie Antoinette here. Still upset? Write to your senators, congressmen, ceos, and other 'well to do' folks about it.

You'll be in good company, the overwhelming majority will be white men. Its precisely the opposite of being 'marginalized', but you feel like a victim just because people are starting to notice that there's something broken here.

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Lol- you SERIOUSLY think old well to do white guys are marginalized in our culture? This reveals just how profoundly out of touch you are with what it is to be genuinely marginalized. Hint: its a lot more impactful than being bothered by a couple radio stations. We've got a real Marie Antoinette here. Still upset? Write to your senators, congressmen, ceos, and other 'well to do' folks about it.

You'll be in good company, the overwhelming majority will be white men. Its precisely the opposite of being 'marginalized', but you feel like a victim just because people are starting to notice that there's something broken here.

What does this have to do with the original post? You trying again to insult nearly half the the adult American population by making some dumb political statement?

Please get back on topic if possible for you to do so.

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Old 13-08-2016, 09:45   #123
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What does this have to do with the original post? You trying again to insult nearly half the the adult American population by making some dumb political statement?

Please get back on topic if possible for you to do so.

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Half the American population is well to do white guys? HA HA HA HA HA
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Old 14-08-2016, 10:04   #124
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Half the American population is well to do white guys? HA HA HA HA HA
Right? It's only 31% in America. Perhaps he is confused because 65% of all American elected officials are white men?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...are-white-men/

but no need for "politically correct" solutions to that problem right?
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Re: Am I overly cautious around water?

I enjoy a certain amount of risk in my life, but I try to follow reasonable precautions. I'm sure some would say I'm a daredevil and some some would say I'm a chicken.

The other day a visitor commented on my lack of navigation aids because I don't have a chart plotter, but only compass, paper charts, Opencpn, radar, knotmeter, depth gauge, and gps. I wear a pfd and sometimes tether, especially when solo and ondeck. When entertaining novice guests, we all wear pfds. On land, we wear bike helmets and ski helmets (I keep extras for guests)... my rules change with the conditions, some are rigid, some fluid. IMO it's a matter of personal judgement.
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Right? It's only 31% in America. Perhaps he is confused because 65% of all American elected officials are white men?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...are-white-men/

but no need for "politically correct" solutions to that problem right?
I suppose thats possible. However since 77.1% of the population is white I don't see how its a race issue.
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I enjoy a certain amount of risk in my life, but I try to follow reasonable precautions. I'm sure some would say I'm a daredevil and some some would say I'm a chicken.

The other day a visitor commented on my lack of navigation aids because I don't have a chart plotter, but only compass, paper charts, Opencpn, radar, knotmeter, depth gauge, and gps. I wear a pfd and sometimes tether, especially when solo and ondeck. When entertaining novice guests, we all wear pfds. On land, we wear bike helmets and ski helmets (I keep extras for guests)... my rules change with the conditions, some are rigid, some fluid. IMO it's a matter of personal judgement.
Compass, Paper Charts, Nimble Navigator on Notebook, Speed/Depth and spare Laptop loaded with Nimble...
H/H GPS as back up.. Oh.. and VHF radio.
No Tether or PFD, Radar, AIS.. on land.. M/cycle helmet (by law) Bicycle helmet no...
Work within your personal limits/capabilities and the hell what others think..
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Old 14-08-2016, 12:53   #128
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I suppose thats possible. However since 77.1% of the population is white I don't see how its a race issue.
You really can't see how it is a race and sex issue when white men have over double the representation in politics they should have statistically, taking seats away from other racial minorities and women?
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Old 14-08-2016, 12:59   #129
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Re: Am I overly cautious around water?

Pickpaul,

Sarcasm follows:

Or maybe more women than men have the good sense not to associate with a bunch of crooks!

Anyhow, if you look at the rules again, you'll see that we agreed not to talk about political issues on CF.

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Old 14-08-2016, 13:47   #130
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as long as they are elected whats the problem? What other course of action do you propose to correct this injustice, as you see it? Ignore votes? Elect on skin color? Sex? Dictatorship? Monarchy? We have in office the people we elected as a majority, guess your side lost?
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Work within your personal limits/capabilities and the hell what others think..


Boatie, made that same point a page or so back.

It is about what YOUR risk limits are.




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Re: Am I overly cautious around water?

Anyone ever look at the numbers on how many sailors drowned from falling overboard at sea, 20 or even 40 years ago? The numbers are very, very low, & yet everyone's a safety fanatic nowadays. Who benefits from that?

Have you ever tried going forward at night while clipped in, when there are a dozen lines on deck on each side of the mast. Pretty much, it's more dangerous doing it when tethered than not, especially if you need to get somewhere expediently.

Or what happens when there's an emergency at 3am, it's raining, & you've had 4hrs of sleep in 3 days? Quite frankly. Plenty of folks wind up on deck, at the mast or bow, half dressed, bare foot, sans harness or PFD.

How's that compare to water sking one's feet from the sugar scoop?
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Anyone ever look at the numbers on how many sailors drowned from falling overboard at sea, 20 or even 40 years ago? The numbers are very, very low, & yet everyone's a safety fanatic nowadays. Who benefits from that?

Have you ever tried going forward at night while clipped in, when there are a dozen lines on deck on each side of the mast. Pretty much, it's more dangerous doing it when tethered than not, especially if you need to get somewhere expediently.

Or what happens when there's an emergency at 3am, it's raining, & you've had 4hrs of sleep in 3 days? Quite frankly. Plenty of folks wind up on deck, at the mast or bow, half dressed, bare foot, sans harness or PFD.

How's that compare to water sking one's feet from the sugar scoop?
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Pickpaul,

Sarcasm follows:

Or maybe more women than men have the good sense not to associate with a bunch of crooks!

Anyhow, if you look at the rules again, you'll see that we agreed not to talk about political issues on CF.

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or maybe childcare in the capital? :-)

Ok, I'll drop it then. I'll just kick back and enjoy the rest of the thread without the dreaded PC rant again.
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What does this have to do with the original post? You trying again to insult nearly half the the adult American population by making some dumb political statement?

Please get back on topic if possible for you to do so.

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Its a fair point, very off topic here. But you'll see in none of my posts did i criticize half the american population, or even well to do white guys. Just the folks who happen to be carrying on about the 'burden' of political correctness despite not suffering from or even understanding systemic marginalization.
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