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Old 10-08-2016, 03:10   #91
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Re: Am I overly cautious around water?

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I'm relieved to see that my tender is exempt, but I guess that means I can't pack it in the car and take it somewhere a long way from the boat and go fishing
In Qld it's:
If your boat or PWC is a tender to a registered recreational ship, it is exempt from registration if:
  • it is only used within 2 nautical miles of the parent ship
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  • it is being used to transport people or provisions between the ship and the shore—this does not include fishing or sightseeing activities.
The tender must be marked on the exterior with the word 'tender' and the parent ship’s registration numbers, in characters at least 75mm high. If this is not possible, markings should be on the inside of the boat in the largest characters possible.

So you can't even use it to go snorkeling around a reef a couple of hundred meters from where you are anchored.
My other problem when I go south is:

"Recreational boats with valid interstate or overseas registration can operate in Queensland:
  • for up to 1 year if the boat has current registration from a foreign country"
While my cat is registered, my tender isn't and it's not marked appropriately - so officially, I can't use it at all
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Old 10-08-2016, 04:00   #92
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Personally, I'll raise a glass to all the Darwin Award candidates mentioned herein, Cheers Mate(s)!!

Enjoy it while you can!!
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Hubris is a leading indicator of potential eligibility.
I hadn't previously considered Ann as being a Darwin Award candidate. Congratulations Ann, welcome to the club.
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Old 10-08-2016, 06:51   #93
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Ann is not


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That's not always the case, be careful.
There will always be those that hide behind a false sense of social responsibility while cowering in fear.
Careful mate.. he keeps his boat at the 'John Wayne' marina...
He'll tell ya to "Get off your milk and drink yer Hoss" if you upset him..
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Ann is not.
Oh yes she is.

Ann wrote:

"Example, one time, when we were becalmed in the Pacific, in waters around 3000 ft. deep, I secured a line around my waist and went for a swim. I didn't want to see the boat start to sail away. The OP of this thread might have found that dangerous. I thought that since I float (once you are afloat, the depth of the water is irrelevant, and it's a psychological kick to me to swim in water many times deeper than swimming pool depths) , and swim quietlly, it would be okay, and it was."

She could easily have become fish food for a large hungry predator, or been rammed by a lost shipping container.
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Old 10-08-2016, 07:22   #96
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Re: Am I overly cautious around water?

wow ann cate called a darwin award winner because she TIES A LINE AROUND HER and swims from boat.

omy. i know few cruisers who do NOT do this. some even forego the line and swim from sprit to transom, where they have a ladder to board. not recommended for speeds over 5 kts..catamaran owners will have difficulty doing this, as they pride selves on their overall speed. they can boat marlin.. ha h ah ah ah a
i wanna see the desk jockeys who bash the cruisers out here doing it--i bet they will sleep with pfds on , inflated and ready to go .
we want pictures to prove this .
there are few pictures of CRUISERS wearing pfds in calm seas.
and the bashers--how long have you lived on and cruiser your boats???

there is a huge difference between out and cruising and daysailing and racing...we prep for foul, not calm. and no one swims without someone knowing about it and attentive..

stu m--that is why the goddesses invented paint and brushes. magic markers, sharpies....etc.
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Careful mate.. he keeps his boat at the 'John Wayne' marina...
He'll tell ya to "Get off your milk and drink yer Hoss" if you upset him..
Ya, wouldn't want to mess with her.
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Re: Am I overly cautious around water?

It is one thing to do your thing and disregard unsolicited opinions and another thing to do stupid things for show.

If you want to jump off the bow and climb up the stern I am OK with this. Just PLS explain to me what good could come from making a youtube out of it and showing it proudly to the sailing world, possibly setting up an example for others.

For the others may be less able swimmers, and their crew may be less able seamen etcetera. Most ignorant people think along the lines of "if someone one can do this, then I can do this as well". Poor prognostics in water sports, climbing and line walking, to name a few.

Doing things is freedom. Doing stupid things for show is just that.

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It is one thing to do your thing and disregard unsolicited opinions and another thing to do stupid things for show.

If you want to jump off the bow and climb up the stern I am OK with this. Just PLS explain to me what good could come from making a youtube out of it and showing it proudly to the sailing world, possibly setting up an example for others.

For the others may be less able swimmers, and their crew may be less able seamen etcetera. Most ignorant people think along the lines of "if someone one can do this, then I can do this as well". Poor prognostics in water sports, climbing and line walking, to name a few.

Doing things is freedom. Doing stupid things for show is just that.

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Barni.. don't read Knox Johnson's solo RTW whatever you do.. he used to dive of the bow and swim till the stern caught up..😀
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Re: Am I overly cautious around water?

Everyone realizes there are over 7 billion people alive now on earth...right?

More Darwin is needed.

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The WHO reports about 370,000 drowning deaths a year. They also say that accounts for 7% of accidental deaths. So there are 93% chances something else will happen.
Meaningless, even allowing for attempted levity and humor. Surely most of those in the quoted stats relate to floods, hurricanes, and bathtubs, not cruising sailboats, including those at docks. Give us a number for folk who drowned upon leaving a sailing vessel, under way or not, voluntarily or otherwise.
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Barni.. don't read Knox Johnson's solo RTW whatever you do.. he used to dive of the bow and swim till the stern caught up..😀
Too late, mate! Read it over 30 years ago. (Which may explain why I no longer remember what he was doin' out there ;-)

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Re: Am I overly cautious around water?

Buzzstar...the OP is talking about in general 'around water'. His example was YouTube he was watching.

Drowning deaths happen around water.

Now the root cause of drowning would be interesting. How many drunks or doopers drown?

I woukd agree Floods are probably most of the 370,000 drowning deaths / year.



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Re: Am I overly cautious around water?

Three things I learned from this thread...
1. Reckless and reasonable behavior is relative to the performer and observer.
2. Sarcasm and humor doesn't always translate well online.
3. Ann Cate is a rebellious dare devil!
4. Many are more willing to judge others than examine their own behavior or notions.
5. I didn't learn anything from this thread but it sure was fun...
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I sail solo a lot and don't even have a tether. No roller furling either.
Now that I think of it, I never wear a PFD, my PFD's are stuffed so far back in the bilge they are all but inaccessible, my flares are out of date (if I even have any), and I never let a bad weather forecast stop a sailing trip. I defer as much maintenance as possible, barring sinking the scow of course. Now if you want to fret the small stuff, go ahead, but don't expect everyone to do the same.
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