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Old 14-04-2011, 20:39   #16
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Re: Aft vs Center Cockpit

A dedicated engine room, a delicious aft cabin, protection for the helm from all quarters, and the mainsheet traveller well out of harm's way are all huge advantages of the centre cockpit
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A dedicated engine room, a delicious aft cabin, protection for the helm from all quarters, and the mainsheet traveller well out of harm's way are all huge advantages of the centre cockpit
We have an aft cockpit, a 14' x 10' dedicated engine room, two delicious aft cabins, almost never use the helm but it's protected as good as possible without brick walls, and our mainsheet traveller is well out of harms way.

So these features are not dedicated to CC at all
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Real sailors have monohulls with aft cockpits, slab reefing (but furler headsails of course) and a darling in every port!


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Maybe real Dutch sailors. Real American sailors have a center cockpit, slab reefing, furling jib (but hank on staysail of course) and a darling in the aft cabin.

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We have an aft cockpit, a 14' x 10' dedicated engine room, two delicious aft cabins, almost never use the helm but it's protected as good as possible without brick walls, and our mainsheet traveller is well out of harms way.

So these features are not dedicated to CC at all
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A 64 footer with a jacuzzi and a movie theatre is not a typical monohull aft cockpit.
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We have an aft cockpit, a 14' x 10' dedicated engine room, two delicious aft cabins, almost never use the helm but it's protected as good as possible without brick walls, and our mainsheet traveller is well out of harms way.

So these features are not dedicated to CC at all
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Sure. It's easy when you have 64' to play with. Try fitting that setup into 42'.
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We have an aft cockpit, a 14' x 10' dedicated engine room, two delicious aft cabins, almost never use the helm but it's protected as good as possible without brick walls, and our mainsheet traveller is well out of harms way.

So these features are not dedicated to CC at all
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Not really fair play. Most of us just have boats, not Yachts.
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Maybe real Dutch sailors. Real American sailors have a center cockpit, slab reefing, furling jib (but hank on staysail of course) and a darling in the aft cabin.
In the aft cabin?! while under way?! only one?! Lesson for my American friend:


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A 64 footer with a jacuzzi and a movie theatre is not a typical monohull aft cockpit.
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Sure. It's easy when you have 64' to play with. Try fitting that setup into 42'.
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To set up a servo-pendulum windvane on a center cockpit boat, try bringing the lines to the emergency tiller. This is what I plan on doing with our Hylas 47. As long as the top of the rudderpost is accessible above deck (not inside the aft cabin as I have seen on some cc designs), this should work quite well for offshore passage making.

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In the aft cabin?! while under way?! only one?! Lesson for my American friend:


Just one thing wrong with this design. The dials in the second photo need a much wider range of adjustment.

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My dream boat. Even has the furler already installed on the jib.

Any chance it's for sale? What about a sister ship?
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My dream boat. Even has the furler already installed on the jib.

Any chance it's for sale? What about a sister ship?
Yes, plus aft cockpit, windvane steering, no engine inside the living area, main traveler up the arch on the stern so well out of harms way.. it has got it all!

Here's the yawl version under sail:
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I am looking at two sailboats: 41' aft cockpit and a 45' Center cockpit. I have only had aft in the past and have heard stories of CCs being wet. One thing I like about CC is it facilitating a separate cabin. Another concern is that I want to install a wind vane and am not sure if that is practical on a CC. What are the pros and cons of each? Thanks for the help.

Between the two boats, you have a huge difference, not just the cockpit, but also the size, what is the displacement of each? Also I read somewhere that for every 2 feet longer boat, increase interior volume by 15% which (assuming this is correct) means that the bigger of the two boats mentioned is about 30% larger below decks. I suggest that there should be a whole lot more that goes into this decision, then just aft vs center cockpit.
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I had a Dufour Sortilege CC which had a 4ft passageway,so cockpit sole was low, and very dry. Sailormat wind vane was completely independent of main rudder and was a dream.
I had a private message from "Wally " asking about a Sortilege. I tried 4 times to reply without success. I finally got a message that I can't post until I'm a Trusted Member.
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Re: Aft vs Center Cockpit

How did the sailormat wind vane work? I had an Aries and it involved lines running from the vane steering to the wheel?
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Re: Aft vs Center Cockpit

I think you guys should post these over in the Nautical Oddities thread.

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Yes, plus aft cockpit, windvane steering, no engine inside the living area, main traveler up the arch on the stern so well out of harms way.. it has got it all!

Here's the yawl version under sail:
(click it for more fun pictures I collected)

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In the aft cabin?! while under way?! only one?! Lesson for my American friend:






Easy:


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aft cockpit: you can see everything on the boat without twisting your head around and your boat looks like a boat and not a recreational vehicle
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