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Old 19-10-2013, 15:15   #61
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Is't a trimaran a collision of a mono with a cat?
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Re: 50ft monhull vs 44ft cat

Yes, the tri for those who just cant decide. re: the OP's original question.
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Old 19-10-2013, 16:16   #63
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Obviously you've never been on a cat... we have wine AND beer, plus RUM!
You peasant !!.
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Obviously you've never been on a cat... we have wine AND beer, plus RUM!
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Thank you for all the input.
Let say a jeanueau oceania 50 to a lagoon 440!
Owning a Lagoon 450 and having sailed on few monohulls, I can say that both can be as safe, depending on the captain, and that the 440 will be much more comfortable, during sailing and at anchor.
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Re: 50ft monhull vs 44ft cat

Easy....
I have a 50ft mono and a big hulk of one, a hudson force 50 and there is more room on a Lagoon 380! Would I swap my boat for a Lagoon 380....Hmmm.....I think I would!
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Re: 50ft monhull vs 44ft cat

If the weather is Benin and the wind from the beam or aft I would use the cat. Should the wind be on the bow or screeching the mono. For me this difference in sailing performance is a key issue. I know there are many who weight other issues higher on their list. I did own a high speed tri that could do it all performance wise but it was useless as a cruiser. The fact that fat cruising cats are not at home with waves and wind on the bow would make them less safe on long open water trips. All the other qualities are trade offs. Where one has a strong suit it is usually offset by a weakness and then the choice comes down to individual style and taste.
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The bottom line is: are you enjoying it ? If the answer is YES , you are on the right craft
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The bottom line is: r u enjoying it ? If the answer is YES , you r on the right craft
Enough of that 'common sense', 'self satisfaction' and 'individual choice' crap Nico!
How are we to get more than TWO posts out of a thread by introducing such nonsensical concepts based on logic and not irrational bias.

Repent, repent before you turn to the dark side, you to Rich Boren with your heretical proposition of sufficient water for all whilst at sea!
How can we speak of hardships on our blogs if we try to eliminate them?
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Re: 50ft monhull vs 44ft cat

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Back to a same old same old question.
Which one is safer for blue water. Transatlantic.
This is really a nonsensical, nonspecific question, except for Atlantic being specified.

So, we all take the bait from someone that likes chatter.

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Thank you for all the input.
Let say a jeanueau oceania 50 to a lagoon 440!
How about Jene/bene to a Lightwave 45 or a Seawind 1250 or a Outremer 45 or a Mumby 48.
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These sort of questions seem to bring up a lot of rubbish I have been a Mono keel boat lover all my life but for many years raced off the beach cats and loved it But one great thing I love about the new breed of large cats is that many men would not be out on the water having a great time with WIVES --- and FAMILIES as lots of the girls don't like leaners ( as they call monos ) and wont go, so this is a terrific side of cats as the boys can now play boats and the girls can have a small condo Now we see this new breed sailing safely all over the world. I have sailed on a lot of cats but not long enough to get used to the funny cat walk in running sea ( never been sea sick but on a cat ???? ) Good luck to you cat guys see you on the water Cheers Jacko
So, catamarans are "girlie" boats.
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Enough of that 'common sense', 'self satisfaction' and 'individual choice' crap Nico! How are we to get more than TWO posts out of a thread by introducing such nonsensical concepts based on logic and not irrational bias. Repent, repent before you turn to the dark side, you to Rich Boren with your heretical proposition of sufficient water for all whilst at sea! How can we speak of hardships on our blogs if we try to eliminate them? Answer that Mr. Boren? Don't let the internet traditions of illogical bias die! Luddites Unite! The Wraith [PS. 44C, How many slabs of what sort of beer should we bring?] [PPS. re. the Chateau Cardboard...red or white, sparkly or flat?]
Obviously, you are a man of high intelligence and sense therefore you are sailing a mono, however, not everybody can be like us and people have god given choices. Sometimes they make the wrong ones. We should not hold that against them. :-)
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Re: 50ft monhull vs 44ft cat

I think that most 40'+ Mono/Multi made for offshore sailing are perfectly safe vessels, and its really down to personal preferences which you prefer. Most people discuss catastrophe incidents, what if the boat would sink/flip, but that is not my major concern as the risk is very small. I do dare to cross the street even if I do put myself at risk to be run over by a bus.

I'm much more concerned about the smaller safty issues. I wonder how many broken arms, fingers, legs, teeth, nose, etc, etc, happens on every boat flipped/sunk. And her is where my personal preference goes to the multi.

The risk of falling is much smaller if the boat is not heeling. If the floor is level I get less tired and can make better decisions and do things faster and navigate better. If I need to go up on deck in bad weather, the job can be done faster and safer if the boat is not heeling.

Most boats (monos and multis) can take rougher weather than the crew, and in such cases I think the crew will fare better on a multi than on a mono.
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