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Old 17-10-2013, 19:56   #31
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Re: 50ft monhull vs 44ft cat

So, what's the reason the vast majority of vessels having crossed oceans have a single hull?

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So, what's the reason the vast majority of vessels having crossed oceans have a single hull?
That's like asking why the majority of cars that cross countries have air filled tires...

...maybe because that's the most common throughout history?
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So, what's the reason the vast majority of vessels having crossed oceans have a single hull?
Maybe ask yourself which type vessel has been sailing the oceans longer, multis or ballasted monos. Take a wild guess!
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So, what's the reason the vast majority of vessels having crossed oceans have a single hull?

Mark,
You are aware that when the victory ships were first launched they broke apart and sank with alarming regularity [and often all hands] due to a faulty design and worse construction techniques aren't you?
The answer though for slow cargo ships is simply cost/ton/mile isn't it not inherent safety?
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Re: 50ft monhull vs 44ft cat

I really don't see the point in questions like this. If you are that concerned that you are looking to pick a boat based on safety, perhaps you should just stay on land.

Either can be very safe, it all depends on the boat and condition its in. I don't think anyone can give you any solid proven answer two the question. In some circumstances, the Cat could be safer, in others the Mono.
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Mark, You are aware that when the victory ships were first launched they broke apart and sank with alarming regularity [and often all hands] due to a faulty design and worse construction techniques aren't you? The answer though for slow cargo ships is simply cost/ton/mile isn't it not inherent safety? Cheers, Mac

I remember watching a tv show about how unseaworthy and badly built the common cargo ships are. Maybe not very safe?
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Re: 50ft monhull vs 44ft cat

The illogical arguments here are just amazing. Because some cat's might sink, we'll assume all of them will, meanwhile disregarding the fact that not every mono that has capsized has recovered.... or the fact that a racing trimaran capsized means every multi will surely capsize in the first gust....

If you REALLY want to see how they compare in heavy weather, read this: Multihull Dynamics, Inc. - News Article

Cruising - not racing - boats in a real life situation.

Fact is, the majority of cat' owners have also owned mono's. I have, and everyone I know who now owns a cat', at one stage owned a mono. They didn't make the move they made, away from a mono to a cat, because they are less safe.
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Mark,
You are aware that when the victory ships were first launched they broke apart and sank with alarming regularity [and often all hands] due to a faulty design and worse construction techniques aren't you?
The answer though for slow cargo ships is simply cost/ton/mile isn't it not inherent safety?
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Yes, they were (hopefully) expected to make a single ocean voyage, and that was considered cost effective at the time, considering the German submarines.
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That's like asking why the majority of cars that cross countries have air filled tires...

...maybe because that's the most common throughout history?
Because they can do it less expensively.
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I really don't see the point in questions like this. If you are that concerned that you are looking to pick a boat based on safety, perhaps you should just stay on land.

Either can be very safe, it all depends on the boat and condition its in. I don't think anyone can give you any solid proven answer two the question. In some circumstances, the Cat could be safer, in others the Mono.
I agree with u land seems. Safer. So on land , most people think motorcycle is more dangerous..
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So, what's the reason the vast majority of vessels having crossed oceans have a single hull?

Thanks Mark.

Your post has added much incite to the question posed by the OP.

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Re: 50ft monhull vs 44ft cat

These sort of questions seem to bring up a lot of rubbish I have been a Mono keel boat lover all my life but for many years raced off the beach cats and loved it But one great thing I love about the new breed of large cats is that many men would not be out on the water having a great time with WIVES --- and FAMILIES as lots of the girls don't like leaners ( as they call monos ) and wont go, so this is a terrific side of cats as the boys can now play boats and the girls can have a small condo Now we see this new breed sailing safely all over the world. I have sailed on a lot of cats but not long enough to get used to the funny cat walk in running sea ( never been sea sick but on a cat ???? ) Good luck to you cat guys see you on the water Cheers Jacko
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In the Queens Birthday Storm, what % of the cats flipped? What % sank?

What % of the monos rolled past 180? What % sank?

Those stats are v interesting.
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Maybe I misspoke. The knock down was a blast I had a hoot, especially since it was midnight with no moon and was pitch black out (talk about adrenaline).

However my wife who was sitting on the lee side of the cockpit and got soaked from the waist down........some how her funometer remembers it quite differently then I do. I guess different strokes for different folks.
Lol it is fun on a mono to put the rail in the water.
On a side note we did get overpowered once on an endeavour cat w a reefed main and no jib and she rounded up (weather helm) quite nicely. Cats will expend energy quickly by accelerating or letting some sail out.
Wish i had the $$ for A 44' cat. ...
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