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Old 04-12-2015, 22:20   #16
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Re: 100' Motor Sailer envy. Let's talk Turkey

On the other hand, you could look @ my 80' baby being built in Indonesia - custom built to order comes in at less than $400,000.
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Old 04-12-2015, 22:42   #17
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I'll have to agree with you there. I watched a video that showed laminated Mahogany ribs through the whole boat.
<big sigh> Well dreaming is free today and I'm not seeing anything comparable these days.
What I don't want is a cleanly gel coated white salon that looks like a high end public restroom with zero woodwork.
You sure about wooden boats? My first and last was only 14 ft. Give the gel coat, low maint. any day. More time spent sailing! Good to read your threads.
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Old 04-12-2015, 23:42   #18
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I ran into these guys this spring on the Sea of Abaco.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...08538919,d.eWE

I chatted with the owner for a bit, he'd bought it in Turkey, did a refit and then sailed it across the Atlantic and it now running charters on it in the Abacos. So maybe all of them aren't junk.
I like your humor... Lucky then?
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Old 05-12-2015, 02:57   #19
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Re: 100' Motor Sailer envy. Let's talk Turkey

When I saw 100' motor sailer in the title, I was expecting to see a thread about "Wild Oats XI".
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Old 05-12-2015, 03:24   #20
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Plenty of room for my Barbara and her girlfriends.
I would moor her in Fort Lauderdale FL for the duration with trips to the Keys.
Respectful replies on boat quality would be much appreciated.
Question: For the "duration" of what? The boat's life? Your life? The life of Barbara and her girlfriends? Time immemorial?

What's your imagined idea about being a sailor (boat owner); i.e., your nautical plans, goals, and needs?
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Old 05-12-2015, 09:34   #21
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Re: 100' Motor Sailer envy. Let's talk Turkey

Best boat advice ever given to me "you don't always get what you pay for,but you will never get what you don't pay for" if you have shipbuilding skills go for it if not you will probably be better off buying quality..
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I ran into these guys this spring on the Sea of Abaco.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...08538919,d.eWE

I chatted with the owner for a bit, he'd bought it in Turkey, did a refit and then sailed it across the Atlantic and it now running charters on it in the Abacos. So maybe all of them aren't junk.
I met the crew in Antigua, just after the crossing. Tales of endless gear failure and it sailed like a dog according to the mate. It's a motor yacht, and not a fast one.
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Question: For the "duration" of what? The boat's life? Your life? The life of Barbara and her girlfriends? Time immemorial?

What's your imagined idea about being a sailor (boat owner); i.e., your nautical plans, goals, and needs?

My life span.
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Old 16-12-2015, 03:19   #24
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Re: 100' Motor Sailer envy. Let's talk Turkey

As a Turkish sailor who sailed gulets for many years as well as western sail boats...

Gulets are usually (90% of the time) coastal cruisers that are not designed for sailing at all. As a matter of fact, the origin of the type is for hauling goods between the mainland and islands in Aegean, thus it gets stable as the load increases (like any freighter today).

But, and this is a big but, if you manage to find that elusive 10%, those are the kind of boats that're truly a dream to sail with interior and exterior spaces second to none (including cats).

However, those 10% cost quite a bit of money, even more than Oysters. Think about older Jongert 30T's, which were build copying traditional gulets with application of modern naval calculations. As a matter of fact Hoek is building most of their boats in Turkey as well with bits and pieces of ideas taken from gulets.

Last but certainly not least, a traditional gulet is a wooden boat and like any other wooden boat, their expenses can simply be summarized as "nightmare" and they're not that compatible for shorthanded crews. For houseboat, go for the steel ones.

Long story short, if you happen to find a good one, they're darlings to have, but just like any other boat and I wouldn't change them even for Swans, however those cost 4-5 times more than the market average.
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