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Old 24-09-2017, 08:51   #1
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Thornless Path - 2017/2018

This thread is intended to be a place where we can share information about transiting the Thornless Path this year. A repository of information about the best strategy to follow post Irma/Maria.

We have been planning on leaving Georgetown, Bahamas Christmas and making our way through the Carribean leaving our boat in Granada for 2018 hurricane season.

Obviously things in the ground have changed due to Irma and Maria. But, since we are Carribean newbies we don't have a good basis for evaluation. I'm hoping that folks with knowledge of the areas will be able to share info about facilities that are still functional and which ones have been totaled.

Examples..
How did Luperon fare?
Marinas on PRs East shore?
Does it still make sense to jump South from Bitter End, understanding it has been hit hard?
Water and diesel availability?

Thanks in advance. SV Safara.
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Old 24-09-2017, 10:09   #2
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Subscribed!

Have a similar plan and time table. But I got zero to add right now.
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Old 24-09-2017, 10:27   #3
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Re: Thornless Path - 2017/2018

I have a similar plan myself, your not alone.
Same questions
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Old 24-09-2017, 10:33   #4
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Re: Thornless Path - 2017/2018

Thanks guys. I suspect it will take some time to get meaningful responses.

We just need to poke this knce in a while to keep it up where it will be seen.

I would also add I'm willing to take some relief supplies somewhere enroute. Our boat can handle a lot of weight but not a whole lot of bulk.
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Does this help?.......

Thorny vs Thornless Path
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Old 24-09-2017, 12:02   #6
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Hi all

Im also planing to be doing this trip this winter. I have nothing to offer yet but would be glad to update everyone as to what I find out along my way.
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Old 24-09-2017, 13:31   #7
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Does this help?.......

Thorny vs Thornless Path
I think more what we are looking for are the recent infrastructure changes due to the hurricanes.

Another example would be...
Have the routes across the Caicos banks been altered? Can we still trust the Explorer chart info.
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I think more what we are looking for are the recent infrastructure changes due to the hurricanes.

Another example would be...
Have the routes across the Caicos banks been altered? Can we still trust the Explorer chart info.
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The routes across the Caicos banks have always required a healthy dose of eyeball navigation. I'd be surprised if anything has changed very much.
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Subscribed as well, quite interested in what may come out of this thread!
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Planning same...but also first-timers cruising the Caribbean-on our way down East Coast (slowly) now-crossing in December...Hopefully a great thread!
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Re: Thornless Path - 2017/2018

Subscribed too. This is going to be challenging cruising season I'm afraid.

I'm at a good sized marina on the U.S. East Coast, full of active cruising boats. Plenty of uncertainty about cruising plans here.

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Re: Thornless Path - 2017/2018

No one has mentioned it but I would think more piracy against cruisers is a real concern. The number of homeless, jobless, food less people just grew exponentially. Desperate people do desperate things. Already there are some rumors floating around about emergency relief boats etc,,
This was taken from a FB group(can't find supporting the evidence anywhere)

"Just spoke with someone who just returned from Roseau from a supply run. Armed men in fishing boats are robbing boats bringing supplies. Moored boats have also been boarded recently. The party cat "Tango Two" was robbed in this manner.
If you are transiting the area, stay well offshore, and consider dropping your sails to be less visible.
Hopefully the Coast Guards and Navies that have deployed to the area will clean this up quickly.
The dock security is sketchy. Sometimes they are overly zealous, other times anybody can get in. Crews are getting robbed when they leave the dock area.
This is for Roseau, we haven't heard from Portsmouth."
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Re: Thornless Path - 2017/2018

Unfortunately, I think it's a good year for the I-65 route bypassing some of the mess. We'll be jumping out in the Bahamas and coming back in somewhere south of St Martin.

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Re: Thornless Path - 2017/2018

Up thread someone linked to another older thread where the Wjndward Oassage was discussed.

"The south coast of Haiti has only two anchorages. Ile a Vache is safe and wonderful; it is at the sw corner of Haiti and I cover it extensively in my cruising guide to Haiti which can be obtained free at Free Cruising Guides
The other anchorage is wonderful and is halfway between the DR and the sw tip of Haiti; it is Jacmel and is an old tourist town. Easy to clear in and out and a wonderful old Victorian town. However, if there is a southerly component in the wind, the anchorage is not tenable.
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I can NOT buy this Kindel book. Amazing.CA lists it but won't sell it to a USA phone number? "Not available in my country." Amazon.COM does not list it.

I did download his guides but have not read them yet.

Thinking out loud, the South coast of Hispaniola was not hit so hard, maybe safer?
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Re: Thornless Path - 2017/2018

I don't know how many people are able to share first hand accounts of what's going on in Puerto Rico right now but the few reports we see on the news sound absolutely apocalyptic and that's not even an exaggeration. A week after the hurricane and the power grid is still completely wiped out for the entire island, roads impassable, food scarce, people with no roofs, hospitals running out of water and medical supplies, not to mention security concerns. Sadly it sounds like that territory will take a long time to recover, not to mention all the other islands in the region that were hit.
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