Originally Posted by MarkJ
Daves most bizzare responses can be put in context with this photo.
It does happen in the Caribbean. All in an area only 250 miles long. Guns are not the answer. I am not making this stuff up.
I did not make up the above photo.
I didnt make up the killing of the Dutch cruiser in margareta a few months ago either.
And I didnt make up the reason for this thread the murder in St lucia
To say three grevious attacks in as many months in one area is not cause for cruisers to think about their security I dont know what is. No matter how far people have cruised, or how long ago they were in an area it is prudent to upgrade the thinking and upgrade the ideas.
Now as theres too much vitriol in this thread, I sign off!
Mark , Im not sure of the propose of these quite intrusive photos.
And yes actually guns are the answers if you really want to know. All this talk of pepper spray etc is really just because of the legal
issues carrying firearms. I personally would always carry a good pump action shotgun ( I currently have a semi automatic shotgun and a pump, but I don't like the safety
issues surrounding autoloaders) .
Least people think Im some lilly livered "socialist" I happen to now live where I can "stand my ground in my house" and believe you me, I would. ( and I can handle a firearm quite well).
A rational discussion then , leading aside carrying a firearm, as most jurisdictions make it to awkward, is what is both reasonable and effective.
Firstly most people, especially " nice" middle class people have little or no exposure to any sort of violent crime, I can look around to all my current
peer group and say quite comfortably that none of them has experienced personal violence.
Therefore self defence methodologies that stress aggressive particularly first strike responses are never going to be effective. I question the effectiveness of pepper spray on multiple assailants, The primary purpose of such "weapons" is to buy time to escape. Thats not possible on a boat and make only serve to make a bad situation much worse.
As to barricading yourself in, and that is what its called. I am of two minds, firstly in the main its very difficult to make the companion way secure in most boats that anyone with a pry bar couldn't overcome. Secondly open grill
barricades simply allow you to be threatened at leisure with a gun, since theres really nowhere to hide thats secure on a boat.
Secondly barricading ones self in, is contrary to humans nature especially in a boat, Usually if you hear a noise
afloat, you investigate, thats whats happened to that poor women. She came out the main hatch
. This tends to be the instinctive response for most sailors, because most of the time its the right one.
Personally I don't see , short of carrying a useful , readily available, loaded and accessible firearm, what these types of measures are purporting to do, othe then offer some possible false sense of "security" to people, SO much " safety" is just that a false sense of security.
My main belief is the key to survival is vigilance, both personal and electronic assisted. Hence if I'm in a dodgy anchorage, I maintain a 24 hours anchor
watch like any good seaman would do. The concept
that you just go below and sleep in all cases actually appals me
Secondly if you feel the need, then active monition detection, search lights and illuminating the general area around the boat all night is a further good deterrent, since boarding parties can easily be seen approaching both from the boat and the shore.
What I question, is why you show personal and gruesome pictures of a particularly tragedy. I mean I could put up endless road traffic accident
pictures, does that change driving a car!!.
The fact remains and the statistics prove it anyway you look, cruising is a very safe undertaking and thats true even in the Carribean.
All the above is in addition to my previous comments regarding ostentation, personal awareness etc.
Ultimately we have the ability to chooses where we go, I see no reason to visit potential trouble spots, If the cruising community boycotted St. Lucia for 2 years it would send out a clear signal. These island economies do want our business.
Maybe we need to leave the CArribean for a while , a bit like we left the red sea and Gulf of Aden.
Id appreciate no more pictures of this poor women thanks mate