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26-01-2014, 09:50
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#361
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Nova Scotia until Spring 2021
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Re: St Lucia murder
I'm surprised no one has yet mentioned the venerable Slocum tactic (pun intended) of the innocuous black rubber "Welcome" mat at the side gates with black coloured tacks pushed through the bottom. Big, sharp, ****-covered tacks.
Old-fashioned, perhaps, but a decent early warning system!
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26-01-2014, 09:56
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#362
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Resin Head
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Seattle WA
Boat: Nauticat
Posts: 7,205
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Re: St Lucia murder
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Originally Posted by S/V Alchemy
I'm surprised no one has yet mentioned the venerable Slocum tactic (pun intended) of the innocuous black rubber "Welcome" mat at the side gates with black coloured tacks pushed through the bottom. Big, sharp, ****-covered tacks.
Old-fashioned, perhaps, but a decent early warning system!
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Is bare-footedness still as prevalent among pirates as it was in his day?
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26-01-2014, 10:10
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#363
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Senior Cruiser
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: PORTUGAL
Posts: 30,616
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Re: St Lucia murder
Quote:
Originally Posted by minaret
Is bare-footedness still as prevalent among pirates as it was in his day?
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Naah... they're all into Nike's and Sliders from E-Bay....
What make me chuckle is the way the 'Newbies' act as if this is a new phenomina... its been around since men first discovered logs don't sink.. and Vikings made it an art form..
If it was solvable methinks it would have happened long ago..
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26-01-2014, 10:11
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#364
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always in motion is the future
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: in paradise
Boat: Sundeer 64
Posts: 18,956
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Re: St Lucia murder
I'd wish people would stop insulting other countries than their own great EU or AUS and stop insulting people with comments like "them living in ghetto's" etc. Really, it's not even allowed. I understand that this is the tactic to get threads that "they" don't like closed (do a personal attack to get it closed). You should ignore or at least not post instead of insulting others.
I am not from the US; I was born and raised in Holland. Yes, it used to be pretty safe but home invasions with torture, murder and rape are the order of the day now, with dead people found in their homes daily. Choosing to ignore it is not wise.
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26-01-2014, 10:35
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#365
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: W Florida
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Re: St Lucia murder
Hey Mark,
When clearing in, is the bear spray "stored" or next to the bed/companionway like when you are snoring?
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26-01-2014, 10:46
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#366
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Re: St Lucia murder
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Originally Posted by Therapy
Hey Mark,
When clearing in, is the bear spray "stored" or next to the bed/companionway like when you are snoring?
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Well its legal. So it can be wherever.
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26-01-2014, 10:53
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#367
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Senior Cruiser
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: PORTUGAL
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Re: St Lucia murder
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Originally Posted by MarkJ
Well its legal. So it can be wherever.
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You'll lose it when you get back to OZ...
Just get 1/2lb of really hot chilli's.. stick em in a blender with a litre of cheap cooking oil and in no time you'll have a great spray to load into something to project/spray it... also red chilli powder is awesome thrown into someone's face..
Both legally acceptable.. everywhere..
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You can't beat a people up (for 75yrs+) and have them say..
"I Love You.. ". Murray Roman.
Yet the 'useful idiots' still dance to the beat of the drums.
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26-01-2014, 12:55
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#368
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Location: Lake Ont
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Re: St Lucia murder
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Originally Posted by boatman61
Just get 1/2lb of really hot chilli's.. stick em in a blender with a litre of cheap cooking oil and in no time you'll have a great spray to load into something to project/spray it
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Be sure to load it into a food-safe squirt-bottle, and keep it handy for when you're cooking. Also great for squirting under the skin of a flattened chicken before roasting. (Pollo Diablo - delicious!)
Everything on a boat should have at least two uses!
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26-01-2014, 13:06
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#369
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Re: St Lucia murder
Seems like it will also stop the chicken from attacking you as well.
Coops.
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26-01-2014, 13:10
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#370
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Re: St Lucia murder
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Originally Posted by Coops
Seems like it will also stop the chicken from attacking you as well.
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Occasionally it does attack, in the dark hours, but a little bicarbonate of soda usually neutralizes the threat.
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26-01-2014, 14:58
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#371
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Resin Head
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Seattle WA
Boat: Nauticat
Posts: 7,205
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Re: St Lucia murder
Quote:
Originally Posted by boatman61
You'll lose it when you get back to OZ...
Just get 1/2lb of really hot chilli's.. stick em in a blender with a litre of cheap cooking oil and in no time you'll have a great spray to load into something to project/spray it... also red chilli powder is awesome thrown into someone's face..
Both legally acceptable.. everywhere..
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Try a little research on pepper spray, it's really not far from that generally speaking. One of the main quality differences is the type of propellant used and hence the range available.
Better products like Inferno use other tricks as well as high quality propellant. That stuff has extremely finely ground black pepper in it, which creates an involuntary sneeze response when inhaled. Sneezing causes you to involuntarily inhale a whole lot more than you would otherwise. This causes the mucus membranes in your lungs to burn like fire, and it also causes your sinuses to go into extreme snot production mode. Eyes tear up, you can't see or breathe, and the pain is extremely intense.
You could make your own recipe easily, but by the time you make it and figure out how to spray it well, it will cost much more than the commercial option and be much less effective. I would not want to rely on a handful of chili powder as an alternative, for many many reasons. You are far more likely to anger someone with that than incapacitate them. And you have much less control over where it ends up. High quality newr sprays like Inferno are an oily gel with a bright die in it. The gel quickly turns into a liquid after being sprayed, to provide better penetration. This ensures it will only effect the target, even when used in a small enclosed space. You would have a very difficult time replicating these effects at home. I suppose a squirt bottle of home brew might be better than nothing in a locale where the real thing isn't an option, but I'm not sure about that one...
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26-01-2014, 15:33
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#372
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Re: St Lucia murder
And what is this bear spray????
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26-01-2014, 15:39
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#373
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Join Date: Oct 2013
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St Lucia murder
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Originally Posted by DoubleWhisky
And what is this bear spray????
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I was told a story about bear spray when I was in the North West territories, maybe Dawson Creek?
See it says bear repellant on it, and I guess that's what it is if you think about it.
Story is a Japanese Mother, being a good Mom lined up the kiddies and applied the bear repellant on them, because of course she didn't want any bear attacking her kids
Bear spray is a rather large amount of pepper spray in a big spray can that will carry quite a distance.
Your supposed to wear a bell too, theory is if the bear hears you coming it won't be surprised and therefore won't attack you.
How can you tell the difference between Brown bear poop and Black bear poop?
Brown bear poop has a little bell in it and smells like pepper.
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26-01-2014, 15:41
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#374
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Resin Head
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Seattle WA
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Re: St Lucia murder
Quote:
Originally Posted by DoubleWhisky
And what is this bear spray????
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Pepper spray which comes in a big canister, for protection from bears.
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26-01-2014, 15:41
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#375
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Resin Head
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Seattle WA
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Re: St Lucia murder
Quote:
Originally Posted by a64pilot
I was told a story about bear spray when I was in the North West territories, maybe Dawson Creek?
See it says bear repellant on it, and I guess that's what it is if you think about it.
Story is a Japanese Mother, being a good Mom lined up the kiddies and applied the bear repellant on them, because of course she didn't want any bear attacking her kids
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Priceless! Works with mosquito repellant, why not bear repellant!?
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