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19-01-2014, 00:55
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Re: UK cruiser killed (shot!) onboard in St Lucia
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19-01-2014, 01:05
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Re: UK cruiser killed (shot!) onboard in St Lucia
Attention, Coops,
There's already another thread on this subject. Maybe merge them? Please
Ann
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19-01-2014, 01:12
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Re: UK cruiser killed (shot!) onboard in St Lucia
What? Who said that? why did I post above? These and other conundrums will be solved by many beers and massive amounts of skill. Done.
Coops.
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19-01-2014, 02:10
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Re: St Lucia murder
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Originally Posted by slosail
No, MarkJ, that's not the worst thing. The worst thing is that a man is dead.
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+1 well said
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19-01-2014, 03:39
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Re: St Lucia murder
Additional facts.
Time just before midnight, body found in the water.
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. Police said three persons are currently in custody assisting with investigations surrounding the death of a British national vacationing in Saint Lucia.
In a press release received by our newsroom late Saturday, the police disclosed details about the incident in which 62-year-old Roger Pratt was killed and his wife, Margaret Pratt, was injured.
The Major Crimes Unit of the Royal Saint Lucia Police Force is investigating the case.
According to the police, “About midnight on Friday, January 17, 2014, officers attached to the Vieux Fort Police Station responded to a report of robbery on a vessel named “Magnetic Attraction” which was berthed at the Seaport in Vieux Fort.
“On arrival, the officers received information that three armed men had boarded the vessel, attacked and injured the occupants before they fled. At the time of the incident, the vessel was occupied by 60-year-old Margaret Pratt and her 62-year-old husband, Roger Pratt.
“Within minutes of the robbers fleeing, Margaret went in search of her husband and found him floating in the nearby waters. Roger was retrieved and transported to St. Jude Hospital via ambulance along with his wife. He was pronounced dead on arrival while Margaret was treated and discharged.
“A post mortem examination has been scheduled for Monday, January 20, 2014.”
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[What a terrible story. The worst thing is it will just enthuse more people to bring guns on their cruise.]
No, MarkJ, that's not the worst thing. The worst thing is that a man is dead.
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Yes. Error with syntax.
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19-01-2014, 06:30
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Re: St Lucia murder
So one of the thieves was NOT killed?
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19-01-2014, 10:29
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Re: St Lucia murder
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Originally Posted by SVNeko
So one of the thieves was NOT killed?
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Its a bit loose on the facts. There was a newspaper report from the UK Daily Mail saying one offender was shot dead, but for what i understand most people from the UK treat the Mail with some scepticism.
There was another man shot dead in St
Lucia the same night so the two stories may have been wrongly connected.
But theres little first hand news that i can see, here, and on a Sunday.
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19-01-2014, 10:53
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Re: St Lucia murder
The thing to remember is that the people who posted to skip St Lucia are right. Rodney Bay isn't safe either, husband killed, wife raped to near death etc. all have happened there before. Just. Don't. Go. There.
Same for St. Vincent, same for Venezuela.
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19-01-2014, 14:16
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Re: St Lucia murder
Sky news reported of the incident so it gets more coverage..
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20-01-2014, 08:38
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Re: St Lucia murder
Well maybe (I woudl if I was running it) the ARC should move islands for the Caribbean destination end.
Do something sensible.
Hit St Lucia where it hurts in the pocket.
St Kitts has just got a new Marina in the old salt pond off of Whitehouse Bay I bet they would love to take on the ARC
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20-01-2014, 08:49
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Re: St Lucia murder
The ARC should consider st Martin because there a huge marine facility here, the biggest chandleries in the world, cheaper to fly into and out of, and a perfect place to start a Caribbean adventure, especially at Christmas time.
Not that this couple were in the ARC.
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20-01-2014, 08:52
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Re: St Lucia murder
The Windwards in general seem to be getting more and more dangerous in the past few years.
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20-01-2014, 09:11
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Re: St Lucia murder
We visited St Lucia (tourists, not cruisers) two years ago, and stayed at a great B&B overlooking tiny Marigot Bay with its several megayachts. We also took the local bus to Rodney Bay on a day-trip.
It was definitely an island of contrasts. I didn't think it looked as 'poor' as Antigua... but poor enough I guess. I suspect that resentment and crime will only intensify in poor countries as the world economy continues to struggle.
Sad story.
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20-01-2014, 09:48
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Re: St Lucia murder
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Originally Posted by colemj
According to the article, the police killed one of the men and arrested the other two. It is difficult to stop a crime before it happens, but at least they didn't ignore it.
St. Lucia has been mega trouble for several years now. When we were there 3 years ago, the cruise ships had pulled it from their routes due to the violent crime. A drug dispute resulted in a local guy being shot and killed in a beach bar right in front of our boat.
I'm not sure I understand how this relates to St. Vincent at all, other than that country is also a trouble spot to be mostly avoided.
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First off my prayers and best wishes to the grieving family.
It is not difficult and in fact mandatory for the police to try and stop a crime before it happens. "To Serve and Protect" - If other parts of the world do not have the same crime rates or similar incidents than the St. Lucia police are doing something wrong and most definitely not enough.
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20-01-2014, 10:35
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Re: St Lucia murder
Their blog is, understandably, down, either due to sensitivities or perhaps to traffic volume. I read a few entries yesterday and while they seemed to know that Vieux Fort was slightly dodgy as a stop-over, they were trying to clear out legally.
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