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Old 27-01-2014, 07:50   #16
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Re: Safe & secure on board šLocked inš

My wife makes me lock the doors. Never had a problem in Bahamas down as far as Antigua. We have had intruders three times. 1X at Royal Hamilton Yacht Club(drunk cops), 2X at Toronto Island and know of three incidents at Port Credit Yacht Club. So much for safer Canada.
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Old 27-01-2014, 07:58   #17
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Yes, the world has changed. It has become, on average, a lot safer. From the latest UN report: "World crime trends and emerging issues...":

"Data from 2011 on property-related crime, violent crime and drug-related crime confirm trends observed over the past 17 years. Levels of property crime continue to slowly decrease, while drug-related crime continues to increase (see figure 1). Average trends with regard to violent crimes are stabilizing, with different patterns seen in different regions.

This does not change the need, in some places, to lock your doors and keep your property and yourself secure. We have a basic latch to lock the companion way from the inside. We've never used it so far, but that's b/c we currently cruise in remote areas of the Great Lakes. I would use it in more urban areas, and am looking at building a metal grate to be used as travel further south.
Yup, that's an organization I'll put my trust in.... Not

I do agree with your last para. Use comon sense.
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Old 27-01-2014, 09:21   #18
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We always lock up for the night. Just leave some vents open.
Always lock the car.
Always lock to home.
Always wear seat belts.
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Old 03-03-2014, 13:17   #19
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"Those who would trade liberty for security will lose both and deserve neither " Ben Franklin

Anybody that needs my stuff bad enough to want to steal it can have it... I'm not going to worry about it and I'll get more.
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Old 03-03-2014, 13:23   #20
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[QUOTE=tryrsh;1482533]"Those who would trade liberty for security will lose both and deserve neither " Ben Franklin

Anybody that needs my stuff bad enough to want to steal it can have it... I'm not going to worry about it and I'll get more.[/QUOTE

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Old 03-03-2014, 13:41   #21
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Touché!!!
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Old 03-03-2014, 13:46   #22
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"Those who would trade liberty for security will lose both and deserve neither " Ben Franklin

Anybody that needs my stuff bad enough to want to steal it can have it... I'm not going to worry about it and I'll get more.
I don't think Ben was referring to an open door policy, to come in and take whatever you like whenever you want when he wrote that. He was most likely thinking a little deeper.

Last year when my wife and I returned a laptop computer to one of our tenants which had been stolen by a heroin addict during a daytime break in, he said the exact same thing to me as I handed it back to him, "anybody that needs my stuff bad enough to steal it can have it.... I'll get more.". That, instead of a "thank you."

Honestly... I'll never understand the "I'm a doormat, come in and take whatever you want" mentality.
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I don't think Ben was referring to an open door policy, to come in and take whatever you like whenever you want when he wrote that. He was most likely thinking a little deeper.

Last year when my wife and I returned a laptop computer to one of our tenants which had been stolen by a heroin addict during a daytime break in, he said the exact same thing to me as I handed it back to him, "anybody that needs my stuff bad enough to steal it can have it.... I'll get more.". That, instead of a "thank you."

Honestly... I'll never understand the "I'm a doormat, come in and take whatever you want" mentality.
Ya...no kidding. Although I would be considered by some as a pacifist, I work hard for my stuff and do not want some dirt-bag taking it. Although I rarely lock my boat, it's only if I leave it longer that 4 hours. But I do stay in safe places with low incidences of petty crime. Strangely, the only time I have been ripped off is after loaning so called friends money when they are in a bind. Then never paying me back or returning phone calls.
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Do you guys think Lady Pippa Blake would agree you? Do your wives agree that your stuff is that important? Just curious.
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Although I would be considered by some as a pacifist, I work hard for my stuff and do not want some dirt-bag taking it.
Pacifist? No I don't think so. You sound more like Ben Franklin, Tom Jefferson, I, and most of the cruisers we meet... Libertarians. Live and let live, mind one's own business and don't take stuff that isn't yours.
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Oh don't misunderstand; someone comes onto my vessel uninvited with the intent of helping themselves to my things, I'll make a proper show of myself. They may leave with my property, but all involved will be the worse for the experience. What I'm saying is if someone makes off with my property while I'm not aboard I'm not going to stress over it and further I'm not going to inconvenience myself (give up my liberty) to stop them. God help anyone that try's to make off with my things while I'm aboard though ...
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Agree 100%. Will most people be robbed several times in their lives? Yes. Is it worth obsessing over, with self-inflicted stress and anxiety? No. Be sensible and carry on. When you get robbed, don't worry about it much. It is just stuff. I will take occasional robbery over perpetual stress any day.
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love this place .. dont have to stifle self inside a closed boat at night. air flows freely and sleep is excellent.
except when bubba fell into lagoon........
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An outboard motor and a couple of fancy watches. So worth not feeling like someone thinks you're a doormat.

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Agree 100%. Will most people be robbed several times in their lives? Yes. Is it worth obsessing over, with self-inflicted stress and anxiety? No. Be sensible and carry on. When you get robbed, don't worry about it much. It is just stuff. I will take occasional robbery over perpetual stress any day.

WTF? Most people will be robbed several times in their life? What do you do, walk around with a kick me sign on your back? It's just stuff, but it's my stuff, not theirs. And believe me, I have no stress or anxiety about it and I certainly don't obsess over it because I know there's always an easier target for them and it's you.
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