Cruisers Forum
 


Join CruisersForum Today

Reply
 
Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
Old 27-03-2011, 17:59   #1
Registered User

Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Lewes Delaware
Boat: Voyage 500
Posts: 3
Rio Dulce,Guatemala

Considering Rio Dulce for hurricane season (Sept,Oct) . Any updates on how safe the area is? I have heard mixed reports. Elsashar
__________________

__________________
ElSashar is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 27-03-2011, 21:04   #2
RTB
Registered User
 
RTB's Avatar

Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Home port Kemah, TX Currently in Brunswick Georgia
Boat: Hunter 36
Posts: 1,509
Images: 2
Re: Rio Dulce,Guatemala

I have a friend heading there now. Just passed Belize City in the past day. He will be getting his boat painted and other work done there, while waiting out the hurricane season.
__________________

RTB is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28-03-2011, 13:46   #3
Registered User

Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 3
Re: Rio Dulce,Guatemala

You will love the Rio Dulce. Excellent spot to hide from bad weather once you get up near Fronteras. Be mindful of the bar that guards the river entrance. If you draw more than 6' consider entering only at high tide and even then it could be sporty. When you clear in at Livingston there's an agent named Raul. (Reach him on VHF) He's good, reliable, and reasonably priced. The harbor at Livingston is not the best place to overnite because of possible theft, especialy dingy and outboard. Head on upriver and you've got the hurricane problem whipped.
__________________
RHWard is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28-03-2011, 14:16   #4
Registered User

Join Date: Sep 2005
Boat: Nordhavn 50
Posts: 85
Re: Rio Dulce,Guatemala

Hi to all, I've been reading on this forum for a while, but seldom posted.

How reasonable is it to think of making it across the bar with a 7 ' draft? And as matter of fact up river and around?

Thanks
Michel
__________________
siroismi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28-03-2011, 14:34   #5
Registered User

Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: NY
Posts: 243
Re: Rio Dulce,Guatemala

I have not been there with a boat but as a back packer. A superb place:if you can go there! There is a small but stable or growing gringo community and if you google around you can find slips etc for what seems to be a reasonable price. mobile phone tarrifs to the US is cheap, the country/area is fantastic (Tikal, Copan, Llago attitlan and Antigua), life is cheap and if you are there you should spend one night at hotelito perdido, smack in the middle of the jungle and run by a polish woman. It is worth going upriver just for the scenery!
__________________
arjand is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28-03-2011, 14:39   #6
Registered User

Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 3
Re: Rio Dulce,Guatemala

Taking 7' across the bar at the Rio Dulce could be a real problem. Some boats have done it with a side tow, ie, a motor vessel pulling on a masthead halyard to heel the sailing vessel over so the draft is reduced. I draw 6' and never touched, but my depth sounder showed I had nothing under the keel. Re the tide....there is a high-high usually once a day and with a wind out of the east (thus keeping some of the floe in the Rio) that could be enough to get you thru. Once in the Rio Dulce you'll see occasional depths up to 50'.
__________________
RHWard is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28-03-2011, 16:38   #7
Senior Cruiser

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: between the devil and the deep blue sea
Boat: a sailing boat
Posts: 17,314
Re: Rio Dulce,Guatemala

What was that about cruisers killed the other day. A one time event?

Or was it elsewhere?

b.
__________________
barnakiel is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28-03-2011, 17:13   #8
Registered User
 
Herbseesmoore's Avatar

Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Traverse City, Mi, US
Boat: Wharram Tangaroa 36ft
Posts: 214
Images: 10
Re: Rio Dulce,Guatemala

Here is a good read. Have things changed, doubt it.

Indigo Moon - Guatemala Part One


Like living behind barbed wire? Enjoy vigilantism, burning criminals in the town square................... You might like it.

Just google burning citizens in guatemala.

Great hurricane hole though
__________________
"When the world was flat as a pancake, Mona Lisa was happy as a clam" J. Prine
Herbseesmoore is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28-03-2011, 17:46   #9
Marine Service Provider
 
AnchorageGuy's Avatar

Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Wherever the boat is!
Boat: Marine Trader 34DC
Posts: 4,618
Re: Rio Dulce,Guatemala

Michel, You can take your 7 foot draft across the bar but you will have to do it at high tide and it will need to be a full high tide. The bottom is soft and you can farm the bottom if you don't catch it just right. The bar is only about 100 feet wide and if you are concerned there are a couple of folks in Livingston that will heal you over enough to get you across. Once over the bar and especially up river, the depths are fine. You can read our posts on our blog,
http://tinyurl.com/625d3uy
http://tinyurl.com/6awhyyp
Every time the subject of Rio Dulce comes up, someone posts Indigo Moon. We get it, he does not like it there and thinks it is the scariest place on Earth. Every year, we and many hundreds of boaters from all over the world find it completely the opposite. It has been one of the highlights of our 20 years of cruising and we would not hesitate to return in a heartbeat. Chuck
__________________
Chesapeake Bay, ICW Hampton Roads To Key West, The Gulf Coast, The Bahamas

The Trawler Beach House
Voyages Of Sea Trek
AnchorageGuy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28-03-2011, 18:13   #10
Registered User
 
Herbseesmoore's Avatar

Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Traverse City, Mi, US
Boat: Wharram Tangaroa 36ft
Posts: 214
Images: 10
Re: Rio Dulce,Guatemala

Is it safe, fair question deserving informed answer, ain't gonna happen. It may be a matter of percentages. How often can one go to the well before falling in. It is a dangerous place as are many cruising destinations. A favorite quote .....
"People who go to sea for pleasure, would go to hell on a lark"

He didn't ask about getting across the bar.
__________________
"When the world was flat as a pancake, Mona Lisa was happy as a clam" J. Prine
Herbseesmoore is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28-03-2011, 18:26   #11
Senior Cruiser
 
atoll's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: gettin naughty on the beach in cornwall
Boat: 63 custom alloy sloop,macwester26,prout snowgoose 37 elite catamaran!
Posts: 9,311
Images: 75
Re: Rio Dulce,Guatemala

Quote:
Originally Posted by Waterwayguy View Post
Michel, You can take your 7 foot draft across the bar but you will have to do it at high tide and it will need to be a full high tide. The bottom is soft and you can farm the bottom if you don't catch it just right. The bar is only about 100 feet wide and if you are concerned there are a couple of folks in Livingston that will heal you over enough to get you across. Once over the bar and especially up river, the depths are fine. You can read our posts on our blog,
http://tinyurl.com/625d3uy
http://tinyurl.com/6awhyyp
Every time the subject of Rio Dulce comes up, someone posts Indigo Moon. We get it, he does not like it there and thinks it is the scariest place on Earth. Every year, we and many hundreds of boaters from all over the world find it completely the opposite. It has been one of the highlights of our 20 years of cruising and we would not hesitate to return in a heartbeat. Chuck

i feel the same way about east africa and the red sea...........
__________________
my catamaran building project updates http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/...36#post2502136
atoll is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28-03-2011, 18:27   #12
Commercial Member
 
Mark Johnson's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: New Bern NC
Boat: Searunner 34 Trimaran
Posts: 1,565
Re: Rio Dulce,Guatemala

The worst problem is dinghy theft... especially for their motors. Hoist your dinghy up alongside every night, and you will have no problem. Stay in one of the VERY reasonably priced marinas when you get to Fronteras, and if you anchor out on Lake Izabal, go in company of another boat, and have low deck level anchor lights.

Violence is much less likely than common theft. We had an aquaintence murdered while there, but it was reputed to be commited by another cruiser, in response to a love triangle, or the like. No country is without ANY violence.

IF you go by the common sense rules, It is safer than some of the Eastern Caribbean countries, or any US "big city" on the "wrong side of town".

Guatemala is perhaps the most beautiful country I have ever seen. GO, be carefull, be polite, be smart... you'll be fine! Take group inland trips to Antigua, Tikal, Lake Atitlan, etc. Your boat will be fine in one of the marinas...

BTW, like all of the Caribbean, your safest bet is to "be carefull", but don't carry a gun or resist IF someone tries to rip you off. The vast majority of the time, thieves only want your stuff, and pulling out a weapon only escellates the situation, or lands you in jail. Killing a thief, because you considered it "in self defense" will get you prison time in the Caribbean! Don't worry, just be smart...

Mark
__________________

__________________
Mark Johnson is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
Guatemala

Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Marina in Rio Dulce, Guatemala flysci Atlantic & the Caribbean 19 04-09-2011 18:14
Rio Dulce ironhorserider2 Atlantic & the Caribbean 7 11-07-2011 21:33
Anyone Coming from Gulf States to Rio Dulce, Guatemala esearidernav Atlantic & the Caribbean 1 30-12-2010 10:54
Crew Wanted: Cap'n to Sail from Miami to Rio Dulce, Guatemala blackcloud Crew Archives 11 12-07-2010 08:14
Rio Dulce tauras General Sailing Forum 7 09-05-2006 16:35



Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -7. The time now is 01:56.


Google+
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Social Knowledge Networks
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.

ShowCase vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.