Cruisers Forum
 


Join CruisersForum Today

Reply
 
Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
Old 23-02-2013, 09:48   #1
Registered User
 
Lowcountry's Avatar

Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Charleston SC
Boat: 1988 Mason 44
Posts: 371
Question about re-entering the US from the Bahamas

I think that some changes have been made with regard to reentering the US from the Bahamas since the last time I did it (June 2009). I have read a bit about the SVRS and LBO systems, but I am uncertain as to whether or not I HAVE TO participate in one of these programs. Can I not just present myself, passport and ship's papers to the actual Customs office in West Palm once I return? That is how I did it last time, and would prefer to just do the same this time. Any insight is appreciated. I will be leaving for the Abacos in two weeks, and will return to the US at the end of April.
__________________

__________________
Lowcountry is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 23-02-2013, 10:04   #2
Registered User

Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Amherst NY
Boat: 1977 shannon 38 cutter
Posts: 91
Re: Question about re-entering the US from the Bahamas

You don't need to be part of those programs, but you will need a customs decal.
__________________

__________________
starchaser 2011 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 23-02-2013, 10:05   #3
Registered User

Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: St. Petersburg, Florida
Boat: Sabre 42
Posts: 206
Images: 1
Re: Question about re-entering the US from the Bahamas

My wife and I have registered for the Local Boater Option. It is just that: an option. Traditional methods of entry are still approved.

EDIT - someone beat me to the enter key.
__________________
** Insert clever catchphrase here **
Gary H is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 25-02-2013, 11:17   #4
Registered User

Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Jupiter FL
Boat: temporarily boatless...
Posts: 723
Re: Question about re-entering the US from the Bahamas

Honestly, almost every time I've used LBO I've had to go to the office anyway for something or another. Last time, it was because one of our party had renewed their passport... So you go through all the lengthy phone reporting for everyone on board, including the new passport information, and then at the end they tell you that you have to come in to the office anyway... For this reason I'm not using the SVRP, it seems like just another way to find some detail that makes you report in person. pete
__________________
pete33458 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28-02-2013, 22:04   #5
Registered User

Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Southern Chesapeake Bay
Boat: Norseman 430, Jabberwock
Posts: 691
Re: Question about re-entering the US from the Bahamas

I've been meaning to inquire about this issue ever since we returned from Bahamas in 2010.

When we returned to Virginia we had to be inspected by USDA (I suppose) regarding the food products we had on board (even what had been loaded in the States), and also trash. He said we would have to take the trash somewhere to have it incinerated. Said all the airplanes had to do this as well. And that it was costly.

He was nice, though, and said since he was next going to the airport, if we carried the trash to his car, he would take to the airport and throw it in with trash from the airplanes.

I was shocked, and figured I'd read complaints about this here at CF, but never did.

Has anyone had anything like this happen to them?
__________________
ggray is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-03-2013, 08:18   #6
Marine Service Provider
 
AnchorageGuy's Avatar

Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Wherever the boat is!
Boat: Marine Trader 34DC
Posts: 4,618
Re: Question about re-entering the US from the Bahamas

The LBO (now SVRP) is not requires and the decal would appear to be required if you read the Homeland Security information on it. However, if you don't have the decal, they will not send you back to where you came from. You will just have to report in person, probably, maybe, and may be subject to inspection. And then again you might be subjected to all of this with a decal and with a decal and an LBO, now SVRP. Ain't our new Homeland Security grand? I highly recommend checking in anywhere besides Key West. They are the most unprofessional, rude, U.S. officials we have ever encountered, maybe not only in the U.S., of anywhere we have traveled in over 20 years. Chuck
__________________
Chesapeake Bay, ICW Hampton Roads To Key West, The Gulf Coast, The Bahamas

The Trawler Beach House
Voyages Of Sea Trek
AnchorageGuy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-03-2013, 10:52   #7
Marine Service Provider
 
beachbum29's Avatar

Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 106
So what happens if you don't check in?
beachbum29 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-03-2013, 11:50   #8
Long Range Cruiser
 
MarkJ's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Australian living on "Sea Life" currently in England.
Boat: Beneteau 393 "Sea Life"
Posts: 12,828
Images: 25
Re: Question about re-entering the US from the Bahamas

Quote:
Originally Posted by beachbum29 View Post
So what happens if you don't check in?

You get shot.
__________________
Notes on a Circumnavigation.
OurLifeAtSea.com

Somalia Pirates and our Convoy
MarkJ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-03-2013, 12:59   #9
Registered User

Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Amherst NY
Boat: 1977 shannon 38 cutter
Posts: 91
Re: Question about re-entering the US from the Bahamas

If you check in without a decal you will be required to buy one for 30.00.That will get you in for that one time.It will not purchase a decal for the year. If you intend to leave and return another time in that calendar year you will still need to purchase a decal. Some thing important to remember is that it is for the calendar year, not a year from when purchased. It is all a money grab, but keep checking in without a decal and border protection types can get pretty upset with you.These are not people you want to piss off. They can and if pushed will seeze your boat till things get sorted out and you may be invited to be their guest for a while. I live on the US /Canadian border. I've had some interesting conversations with the folks in the blue suits on both sides of the border.
What happens if you don't check back in? Not really sure.I know people who walk that line. Good luck to them. I have had enough trouble trying to do things the legal way to want to find out what happens when you don't. I do know that the entry into another country is on your passport and when you check in (or don't)is on the US data base. Do it enough times and you have some explaining to do fines to pay and possibly lawyers and judges to talk to.
No Mark they won't shoot you.....the first time
__________________
starchaser 2011 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-03-2013, 14:09   #10
Registered User
 
LakeSuperior's Avatar

Join Date: Jan 2008
Boat: Teak Yawl, 37'
Posts: 1,581
Images: 7
Re: Question about re-entering the US from the Bahamas

Quote:
Originally Posted by starchaser 2011 View Post
If you check in without a decal you will be required to buy one for 30.00.That will get you in for that one time.It will not purchase a decal for the year. If you intend to leave and return another time in that calendar year you will still need to purchase a decal.
I have found this statement not to be true on many occasions. The last time, we cleared into Charlston April 2012 and got a great welcome from the DHS folks. We were told to buy the decal online after clearing in. It was mailed to my house. The decal is good for the remainder of the calender year. If your craft is under 30' a decal is not required.

No-one ever followed up to see if we purchased it unless they did it electronically. The DHS folks could not have been nicer and four of them came down to the boat. No search and no hassle. I did give them a courtesy call 4 days out to let them know we were on our way and when we would arrive. They did take boat and crew info at that time.
__________________
LakeSuperior is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-03-2013, 14:19   #11
Registered User

Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Amherst NY
Boat: 1977 shannon 38 cutter
Posts: 91
Re: Question about re-entering the US from the Bahamas

Did not work that way for me. I was in Puerto Rico. Like an idiot I left my decal home in NY. They were very nice, but it cost me 27.50. I then had to make on online application and keep my application number before I could check into the USVI where they did verify my information.Years earlier in New York State I was read the riot act for not having a current sticker.Like most things with Border patrol it all depends who you run into that day. I am always polite and calm when dealing with these folks.
__________________
starchaser 2011 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-03-2013, 14:23   #12
Registered User

Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Amherst NY
Boat: 1977 shannon 38 cutter
Posts: 91
Re: Question about re-entering the US from the Bahamas

I forgot to mention the online application cost another 27.50. The very nice Puerto Rican agent told me that the 27.50 I paid him was a one time fee for that entry and did not buy me a decal. The entry into the USVI was 3 months later entering from the BVI.
__________________
starchaser 2011 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-03-2013, 14:26   #13
Registered User

Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Cayuga Lake NY - or on the boat somewhere south of there
Boat: Caliber 40
Posts: 1,096
Re: Question about re-entering the US from the Bahamas

When I checked in from the Bahamas in 2011 (Beaufort, NC) they were very nice. Wanted to know the decal number and when I gave it to them they didnt actually want to see it. Looked for fresh veg and meat and took it with them in a red bag marked as a burn bag. All very courteous and professional.
__________________
sck5 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-03-2013, 15:35   #14
Marine Service Provider
 
AnchorageGuy's Avatar

Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Wherever the boat is!
Boat: Marine Trader 34DC
Posts: 4,618
Re: Question about re-entering the US from the Bahamas

Quote:
Originally Posted by beachbum29 View Post
So what happens if you don't check in?
CBP reminds boaters that failure to report entry into the US can result in fines of up to $10,000 and seizure and forfeiture of the vessel.
__________________
Chesapeake Bay, ICW Hampton Roads To Key West, The Gulf Coast, The Bahamas

The Trawler Beach House
Voyages Of Sea Trek
AnchorageGuy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-03-2013, 17:15   #15
Marine Service Provider
 
beachbum29's Avatar

Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 106
Quote:
Originally Posted by Waterwayguy View Post

CBP reminds boaters that failure to report entry into the US can result in fines of up to $10,000 and seizure and forfeiture of the vessel.
Bummer
__________________

beachbum29 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
Bahamas

Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off




Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -7. The time now is 00:59.


Google+
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Social Knowledge Networks
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.

ShowCase vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.