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Old 28-04-2007, 21:53   #31
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Gord, the other caveat about "rape" statistics is that the stats themselves are not always clear. Rape and "sexual assault" may or may not be the same charge in different venues. In the US, they are different.

Then there's the cultural thing. In some countries rape is considered the fault of the victim--so it goes unreported. In the US, there were and are major arguments about "date rape" and what is or isn't really rape (as opposed to a woman changing her mind during the act or afterwards) and how THAT has changed statistics, along with a general rise in rape reports as the stigma has been removed for victims--in some situations.

Given all that...rape stats are simply too subjective and ill-defined to be compared across cultures and nations. I've heard it said many times that in the UK there's no stigma to being charged with assault and battery--it just means you were in a pub brawl and got caught. In the US, a&b would get your resume trashed in most companies. (Dunno how true or accurate that is, just saying there are differences in charges and reports and cultures.)
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I've heard it said many times that in the UK there's no stigma to being charged with assault and battery--it just means you were in a pub brawl and got caught. In the US, a&b would get your resume trashed in most companies. (Dunno how true or accurate that is, just saying there are differences in charges and reports and cultures.)
I take the thrust of what you saying.

In my little part of the UK, and IME I would say that this would be broadly true, albeit depending on your job, whether jail time was involved, how long ago it was and whether you had a "good story" (whether true or not ).......plus whether you had good things going for you. It would not be an automatic no no.

I think in the UK we especially have a tendency to forgive / let slide stuff folk did in their youth /early adulthood.........maybe on the basis that "their but for the grace of god go I"?? .

Interestingly enough I have only ever been asked for a Police Check (of my Criminal Record) once. and that was on contract and a few years ago and I work in Financial Services doing work in an area that I would easily understand if it was a requirement.........in fact i am still quite surprised it isn't - of course the question of actual identity is not really a problem here (last place I rolled up at - I knew from other work places 5/ 6 people from over 20 years and also 1 from school! - and that excludes husbands and wives and other family members I have worked with - their is 90,000 odd people here, but it can be a very small world!)
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Interestingly enough I have only ever been asked for a Police Check (of my Criminal Record) once.
I can't help wondering if these two quotes are in any way related to one another.

You know I'm kidding you, David, but when one puts the quotes together, it is amusing. I'm just not exactly sure what thread to put this post in . . .

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I can't help wondering if these two quotes are in any way related to one another.

You know I'm kidding you, David, but when one puts the quotes together, it is amusing. I'm just not exactly sure what thread to put this post in . . .

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