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12-10-2013, 18:34
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cruiser
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Tampa Bay area
Boat: Hunter 31'
Posts: 5,731
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Re: okeechobee lake?
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Originally Posted by scoobert
in 2009, me and the labs were in FL, at Okeechobee. was a camp ground, right on the water. gators are fun!
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If you were near water's edge with your dogs, you and the dogs were lucky. They're lucky to be alive and you're lucky you didn't lose one of your beloved pets.
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12-10-2013, 18:34
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#17
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cruiser
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: medusa NY
Boat: Tayana Surprise 45 schooner "Union Pacific"
Posts: 2,097
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Re: okeechobee lake?
i wish i knew. i have emailed tayana, and have yet to get a response.
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12-10-2013, 18:37
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cruiser
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: medusa NY
Boat: Tayana Surprise 45 schooner "Union Pacific"
Posts: 2,097
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Re: okeechobee lake?
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Originally Posted by Rakuflames
If you were near water's edge with your dogs, you and the dogs were lucky. They're lucky to be alive and you're lucky you didn't lose one of your beloved pets.
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here is Daphne in Okeechobee,
velma
and here is the gator i snatched out of the water.
the only animal i fear is a skunk.
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12-10-2013, 18:39
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Texas - USA
Boat: Twin Otter de Havilland Floatplane
Posts: 1,838
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Re: okeechobee lake?
Hiya Scoobie! With very rough calculations, on a napkin, the most you can incline is no greater than 17 degrees...safer margin around 13 degrees. Take care!
Mauritz
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12-10-2013, 18:40
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cruiser
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Tampa Bay area
Boat: Hunter 31'
Posts: 5,731
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Re: okeechobee lake?
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Originally Posted by scoobert
here is Daphne in Okeechobee,
velma
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and here is the gator i snatched out of the water.
(pictures deleted)
the only animal i fear is a skunk.
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Daphne does not appear to be anywhere near the water's edge. Good man!
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12-10-2013, 18:45
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Bellingham
Boat: Outbound 44
Posts: 9,319
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Re: okeechobee lake?
A 49 ft clearance with a 55 ft mast works out as 27* - at least thats what I got with a handy online trig calculator. To get some space and safety you'd probably need go to 30*. Seems like a lot. Not sure why you'd want to go to LK Okeechobee
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12-10-2013, 18:47
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cruiser
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: medusa NY
Boat: Tayana Surprise 45 schooner "Union Pacific"
Posts: 2,097
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Re: okeechobee lake?
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Originally Posted by Paul L
A 49 ft clearance with a 55 ft mast works out as 27* - at least thats what I got with a handy online trig calculator. To get some space and safety you'd probably need go to 30*. Seems like a lot. Not sure why you'd want to go to LK Okeechobee
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my bottom paint is dated... and fresh water is better on the hull then salt.
in fact my yacht has spent half its life in fresh. it has no blisters as of right now.
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12-10-2013, 18:49
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Moderator Emeritus
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Northern NSW.Australia
Boat: Sunmaid 20, John Welsford Navigator
Posts: 9,549
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Re: okeechobee lake?
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Originally Posted by Paul L
A 49 ft clearance with a 55 ft mast works out as 27* - at least thats what I got with a handy online trig calculator. To get some space and safety you'd probably need go to 30*. Seems like a lot. Not sure why you'd want to go to LK Okeechobee
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You are probably nearer than me, I just drew it to scale on a piece of paper and guessed the angle. Both angles would be more that I would wish to try with weights anyway.
Coops.
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12-10-2013, 18:55
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Annapolis, MD
Boat: Island Packet 35
Posts: 110
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rakuflames
Myself, I don't want to put that much strain on my rigging, but I'd love to take the trip on a smaller boat.
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OK, I get that the mast would have extra compression with this type of loading, but the uphill (normally windward) shrouds should have no more tension than if sailing at the same angle of heel, right? Or am I missing something...?
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12-10-2013, 18:58
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Texas - USA
Boat: Twin Otter de Havilland Floatplane
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Re: okeechobee lake?
Depending on the waterline distance to the deck...most sailboats would have a severe center of gravity shift and fill with water at 25+ degrees inclination; I do not have all the numbers, as there are variables to be considered.
Mauritz
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12-10-2013, 18:59
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Marine Service Provider
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Working in St Augustine
Boat: Woods Vardo 34 Cat
Posts: 3,865
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Re: okeechobee lake?
I worked it up several years ago on 53' I recall it was something like 30 degrees. It takes more than you might imagine. 56' is a no go on the east side for sure. Might make the west side at low tide well heeled.
All if these posts will be much more relevant if you ever leave the dock.
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12-10-2013, 19:00
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Annapolis, MD
Boat: Island Packet 35
Posts: 110
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I've been looking at possibly taking the Okeechobee waterway, too. I draw 4.5 feet and have an air draft of 48 feet (will confirm with direct measurement once loaded for cruising). I seem to recall that I (should) barely fit on both counts, so I'm surprised that Scoobert's draft is not also a limiting factor--or is it?
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12-10-2013, 19:08
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#28
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Wash DC
Boat: PETERSON 44
Posts: 3,165
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To correct some common errors and ideas. Fresh water can do more damage then salt water. The lack of blisters does not mean anything. You are point loading the mast. It should handle the loads though. . Your sail will load the mast evenly. Point loading is just that. At the end the energy pushing against the keel is the same. More energy is going down a single point.
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12-10-2013, 19:14
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#29
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cruiser
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Tampa Bay area
Boat: Hunter 31'
Posts: 5,731
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Re: okeechobee lake?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul L
A 49 ft clearance with a 55 ft mast works out as 27* - at least thats what I got with a handy online trig calculator. To get some space and safety you'd probably need go to 30*. Seems like a lot. Not sure why you'd want to go to LK Okeechobee
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Because it's beautiful and unique, and because it significantly shortens the time (and fuel, if you're motoring/have a power boat) to get from one coast of Florida to the other.
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12-10-2013, 19:17
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#30
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cruiser
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Tampa Bay area
Boat: Hunter 31'
Posts: 5,731
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Re: okeechobee lake?
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Originally Posted by SV Sea Monkey
I've been looking at possibly taking the Okeechobee waterway, too. I draw 4.5 feet and have an air draft of 48 feet (will confirm with direct measurement once loaded for cruising). I seem to recall that I (should) barely fit on both counts, so I'm surprised that Scoobert's draft is not also a limiting factor--or is it?
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It depends on the state of the lake. We have had a TON of rain, especially inland where it rains more anyway, and the lake is probably very high. Better for going through the lake; worse for getting under that low bridge.
It's really a power boat route or small sailboat route.
The summer storms in the area of that lake can be bodacious but it should be pretty good right now.
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