Member Map Go to the Home Page Portal Cruisers & Sailing Forum Cruisers & Sailing Photo Gallery Manage Your Profile! Member Directory Search past discussions! Frequently Asked Questions Community Policies & Posting Rules Register Today, Its FREE!

Go Back   Cruisers & Sailing Forums > Scuttlebutt > Destinations > Atlantic Ocean & the Caribbean
Register Gallery FAQ Members List Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read



Welcome to CruisersForum.com the friendliest forum community where sailing and cruising enthusiasts meet online to exchange knowledge. Our members have contributed over 5,000 pages of information including discussions about boats, destinations, electronic equipment, book reviews, living aboard, crews wanted and so much more...

You are currently viewing our site as a guest which allows you to read most all of our content. By joining our community (For FREE) you will have access to participate in the discussions, post new topics, connect and communicate with other members, respond to polls, upload your own photos and access many other special features.

Registration is fast, simple and absolutely FREE so please join our community today!

Click Here to Register!
Reply
 
Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
Old 13-06-2008, 05:50   #16
GordMay
Administrator
 
GordMay's Avatar
Site Administrator
Profile:  Location: Thunder Bay, Ontario - 48-29N x 89-20W
Boat: C&C 29 - "Southbound"
Posts: 8,583
Status: Online
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zanshin View Post
... Beware the sharks on land...
FWIW: According to Jimmy Buffet:
They hang out in the local bars,
And they feed right after dark ...
... Just behind the reef are the big white teeth
of the sharks that can swim on the land ...
__________________
Gord May
~~_/)_~~ (Gord & Maggie - "Southbound")
"If you didn't have time/$ to do it right in the first place, when will you get the time/$ to fix it?"
Status: Online
 
Reply With Quote
Old 13-06-2008, 05:51   #17
Zanshin
Registered User
Profile:  Location: British Virgin Islands
Boat: Jeanneau 43DS
Posts: 121
I'm not a Parrothead but have to agree with him on this one!
  Reply With Quote
Old 16-06-2008, 04:45   #18
nancytdp
Registered User
Profile:  Boat: CNB Briand 76 - Lilla
Posts: 1
Hello,
The regulation says vessels belonging to foreign governments are exempted from payment of harbour charges unless carrying cargo for freight or passengers for fare. I think they are targeting foreign vessels making money in their waters not the private cruising yacht.
Happy Sailing!
  Reply With Quote
Old 16-06-2008, 07:15   #19
LakeSuperior
Registered User
Profile:  Boat: 37' Teak on White Oak Yawl
Posts: 11
Paradise Lost!

Last charter in the BVI's was about 5 years ago, off season in June. Moored with over 70 charters (I counted) in the Bight. Non-stop partying by a minority was the rule. At 3:00 AM they (the party'ers) starting burning the furniture from the resturant. By 4:00 AM they were lost and touring the harbor using echolocation to find their boat.

The next morning ~8:00 AM, warm, spectacular, I was primed for a morning swim with that yes!!! I'm here feeling. Then did the math, 70 charters times maybe 4 heads per charter is 280 flushes into the harbor. Realize that many charter yachts did not have holding tanks at that time or if they did they weren't used. Discretion was the better part of valor...I made coffee instead.

Bottom line: we don't care what fees they charge we won't be back or stopping off in the future, that paradise is lost.
  Reply With Quote
Old 16-06-2008, 08:03   #20
wind rose ll
Registered User
 
wind rose ll's Avatar
Profile:  Location: Toronto, Canada
Boat: Bayfield 36
Posts: 109
Was it not the BVI's that passed a law requiring on persons aboard boats to wear life jackets at all times??What happened to that one?
Dave
  Reply With Quote
Old 17-06-2008, 09:06   #21
Rubikoop
Registered User
Profile:  Location: St Thomas USVI
Boat: Bombay Clipper 31 Far Cry
Posts: 47
Article in St Thomas paper

This article was in yesterdays paper. The direct link is The Virgin Islands Daily News - A Pulitzer Prize Winning Newspaper



BVI Ports Authority putting harbor charges into effect July 1
Daily News Staff
Monday, June 16th 2008


TORTOLA - The British Virgin Islands Ports Authority will enforce harbor charges effective July 1.
Harbor charges are levied on vessels entering and remaining in the territorial waters or using a Ports Authority facility.
Under the new fee structure, vessels will be charged $1 per foot for the first day, $0.75 per foot for the second day and $0.50 per foot for the third day.
Vessels using Ports Authority facilities will pay $1 per foot of vessel length per day.
Boats less than 15 feet and ones that are home ported in the BVI are exempt from the harbor charges.
In 1991, the Ports Authority awarded a contract to a Canadian firm Sedley & Co. to study the authority's financial situation and it recommended a fee structure that would ensure the economic viability of the organization.
The regulations went into effect on Jan. 1, 1997, but never were enforced.
Minister for Communications and Works Julian Fraser said in a government statement that the Ports Authority has been unable to realize its true revenue potential for some time because of its failure to collect harbor charges.
"The Ports Authority is a statutory organization that is self-funded and responsible for the development and maintenance of infrastructure of significant financial and economic value," he said. "It is necessary therefore, that the Ports Authority is able to assess and collect user fees in order to remain viable."
Copies of the amended regulation detailing the harbor charges and exemptions can be accessed at VIRGIN ISLANDS OFFICIAL GAZETTE or obtained from the Passport Office on the ground floor of the Central Administration Complex on 33 Adminstration Drive.
  Reply With Quote
Old 17-06-2008, 09:29   #22
Southern Star
Registered User
Profile:  Location: Belleville, Ontario, Canada; Playa Zaragoza, Isla de Margarita
Boat: 1994 Solaris Sunstream 40 'Estrella del Sur'
Posts: 564
Thanks Rubicoop - certainly makes it clear that the fees will apply to all foreign registered vessels (except of course ones owned/operated by soverign foreign states, which would be exempt under international law). That is a significant amount of money if you are planning on anchoring out and using your dinghy for shoreside trips to restaurants and bars, or for provisioning (however limited in the BVI's).

Anyway, I suspect that for every dollar gained in direct taxation they will loose several times that in onshore spending/clearance fees by people who will now choose to go elsewhere.

Brad
  Reply With Quote
Old 17-06-2008, 10:17   #23
Therapy
Registered User
 
Therapy's Avatar
Profile:  Location: Florida
Posts: 1,342
So, to visit for a month in my imaginary 34' boat would cost (in addition to the other fees still there + the $1.50 a day estimate from the Cruisers Forum thread) $525.50. In my imaginary 40' Manta it would cost $630.00. And now the Manta is 42ft - AAARRRRRrrrrrrrr!

If other nations decide to "imbibe" of the same "spirits" then my spirits will sink to an even lower level than yesterday or the day before. "The Dream" will remain just that, a figment, a mist, a vapor, but no longer life sustaining as it has been.
  Reply With Quote
Old 17-06-2008, 10:18   #24
Vasco
Registered User
 
Vasco's Avatar
Profile:  Location: Toronto in summer, further south in winter.
Boat: CS36Merlin, "La Belle Aurore" Ben393 "Breathless"
Posts: 1,537
Just skip the BVI. It's saturated with charter boats and mooring buoys.
__________________
Rick I
Toronto
  Reply With Quote
Old 17-06-2008, 10:23   #25
TaoJones
Registered User
 
TaoJones's Avatar
Profile:  Location: Newport Beach, California and Las Vegas, Nevada
Posts: 1,043
Quote:
Originally Posted by Therapy View Post
<snip>
In my imaginary 40' Manta it would cost $630.00. And now the Manta is 42ft - AAARRRRRrrrrrrrr!
Relax, Therapy. Fees on imaginary vessels are paid in imaginary dollars!

TaoJones
__________________
"Your vision becomes clear only when you look into your own heart. Who looks outside, dreams; who looks inside, awakens." Carl Gustav Jung (1875-1961)
  Reply With Quote
Old 17-06-2008, 10:25   #26
Therapy
Registered User
 
Therapy's Avatar
Profile:  Location: Florida
Posts: 1,342
Quote:
Originally Posted by TaoJones View Post
Relax, Therapy. Fees on imaginary vessels are paid in imaginary dollars!

TaoJones
You are too kind.
My day has been made.
  Reply With Quote
Old 17-06-2008, 13:47   #27
Rubikoop
Registered User
Profile:  Location: St Thomas USVI
Boat: Bombay Clipper 31 Far Cry
Posts: 47
I plan on being in the BVI waters from June 28th-July 6th. It will be interesting to see if and when the fees are charged. I wonder what would happen if some one is trying to clear out and doesn't have an extra hundred bucks to do so. Would you have to stay? If you just left would they nail you when you came back? It would seem to me that they do not really want anybody other than locally registered boats to be in their area. I would rather just have them raise the mooring ball rate if they need to increase revenues, the vast majority of people would pay extra without whining much. Time will tell. If nothing else, this could be a boon for St John and St Thomas.

Last edited by Rubikoop : 17-06-2008 at 14:11.
  Reply With Quote
Old 17-06-2008, 16:56   #28
donradcliffe
Registered User
Profile:  Location: New England
Boat: Beneteau First 456
Posts: 253
They will just confiscate your boat, like they have for non-BVI boats caught fishing without a license.

Its a shame that the BVI has gone greedy. The cruising there was better than the USVI, which is not boat-friendly and where the eco-terrrorists have prohibited anchoring in St John. Now there will be more boats in my favorite nearby place, which will go unmentioned...
  Reply With Quote
Old 17-06-2008, 17:47   #29
TaoJones
Registered User
 
TaoJones's Avatar
Profile:  Location: Newport Beach, California and Las Vegas, Nevada
Posts: 1,043
Quote:
Originally Posted by donradcliffe View Post
<snip> . . . Now there will be more boats in my favorite nearby place, which will go unmentioned...
St. Croix? Vieques, Culebra and the Spanish Virgins?

TaoJones
__________________
"Your vision becomes clear only when you look into your own heart. Who looks outside, dreams; who looks inside, awakens." Carl Gustav Jung (1875-1961)
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-07-2008, 13:23   #30
Hud3
Administrator
 
Hud3's Avatar
Site Administrator
Profile:  Location: Nevis, West Indies
Boat: Island Packet 380 "The Belle of Virginia"
Posts: 1,801
Angry Harbour Fee Amendment Clarified

I ran across an update on the new BVI Harbour Fees.

Because of the widespread confusion on how the fees would be applied, a short notice meeting was called by the BVI Minister of Communications & Works, Customs, Ports Authority and VISR for representatives of the BVI yacht charter sector and marina operators.

Here's the bottom line: beginning 15 July, 2008, every boat coming and going in the territory will be required to pay port fees of $1.00 per foot for the first day in BVI waters, 75 cents per foot for the 2nd day and 50 cents per foot for EVERY day in BVI waters thereafter. Customs are expected to be collecting these fees.

It looks like private yacht owners not flagged in the BVI and non-BVI charter boats are going to be paying substantial fees for the privilege of plying the azure waters of the British Virgin Islands!
__________________
Hud
s/y The Belle of Viriginia, IP 380
Nevis, West Indies
  Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Sunsail vs. BVI Yacht Charter vs. Moorings in BVI austinmurphy Atlantic Ocean & the Caribbean 11 24-06-2008 14:09
Kid boats cruising Mexico 2007 & 08 Hipnautical Cruising with Children 11 03-04-2007 20:30
Tips, Tricks & Rules of Thumb markpj23 Seamanship & Boat Handling 35 13-07-2006 12:06
Locations Of Sunken Or Abandoned Ships & Boats CaptainK The Sailor's Confessional 4 12-01-2006 10:46
"Nuts & Boats" from THS GordMay The Library 6 17-01-2005 12:58


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 02:18.


Other Social Knowledge forum communities:
Cooking Forum - Sailing Forum - Early Retirement - Airstream Trailer - Aquarium Forum - Royal Forum - Book Forum - Yoga Forum - Volkswagen Touareg Forum - Jeep Wrangler Forum - Whitewater Kayaking & Rafting Forum - Fiberglass RV Forum - U2 Forum
Social Knowledge Networks
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
SEO by vBSEO 3.2.0