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Old 08-02-2013, 16:04   #226
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The use of models beats the heck out of cherry-picking.

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Old 08-02-2013, 16:09   #227
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The use of models beats the heck out of cherry-picking.

Not if they are wrong of course, eh?
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Old 08-02-2013, 16:13   #228
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Not if they are wrong of course, eh?
That is true. The IPCC models have tended to be too conservative.

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Climate Science Predictions Prove Too Conservative: Scientific American
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Old 08-02-2013, 17:00   #230
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Jackdale - you can't teach a pig to dance. It's a waste of time and it annoys the pig.

I don't know why it's easier for some to trust a bunch of late-night table-pounding tv and radio demagogues over a supermajority of the world's climate scientists... but many do. The power of the media, I suppose.

What bugs me the most is the people who have latched onto the denial camp as the excuse for doing nothing at all. Time for a bigger truck, Martha. And where's Canada in all of this? Selling tarsands oil to the US for LESS than world price. So we're not only keeping the addicts well supplied, we're screwing ourselves too at the same time.

The real climate troubles, if predictions hold, will occur after most of us here are dead, so it's fairly safe to be in denial. Some or most of humanity will muddle through, we hope. I hope enough of an Internet record remains for historians to see who thought what and when.

... to stay civil, I guess one must now remember to avoid talk of religion, politics, and now science. So noted.
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it always cracks me up to read of the dangers of global warming caused by CO2 due to burning fossil fuels from people's carbon footprints ...............................

on a computer
And they still insist on cruising instead of doing something environmental like living in a bark hut using cow farts for energy.
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Jackdale - you can't teach a pig to dance. It's a waste of time and it annoys the pig.

I don't know why it's easier for some to trust a bunch of late-night table-pounding TV and radio demagogues over a supermajority of the world's climate scientists... but many do. The power of the media, I suppose.

What bugs me the most is the people who have latched onto the denial camp as the excuse for doing nothing at all. Time for a bigger truck, Martha. And where's Canada in all of this? Selling tarsands oil to the US for LESS than world price. So we're not only keeping the addicts well supplied, we're screwing ourselves too at the same time.

The real climate troubles, if predictions hold, will occur after most of us here are dead, so it's fairly safe to be in denial. Some or most of humanity will muddle through, we hope. I hope enough of an Internet record remains for historians to see who thought what and when.

... to stay civil, I guess one must now remember to avoid talk of religion, politics, and now science. So noted.

OK.

I don't believe what you do. That is pretty obvious. And never will I am pretty sure though I read on both sides. And I watch little or no TV and listen to no radio thank you very much. I do read your insult(s) though.

So, Mr. smart ass, know it all, scientific master, what can the human race do to make the world cooler? Please ignore that it has been much cooler and warmer in the past - oh wait, you have done that before.....

Pick your temperature that is "correct" and pray tell the ignorant of the world your solution and our salvation.

Quickly though because I will unsubscribe shortly as the same is being said by the same people on the "other forum".
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And they still insist on cruising instead of doing something environmental like living in a bark hut using cow farts for energy.

One helluva way to toast a marshmallow mate...
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If all CF members turned their computers off, would I need to put on a sweater.
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Re: More Bad News for Caribbean Coral Reefs

I guess me be just a "stupid minded" "pig" according to the open minded climate experts. I can live with dat while me clings to me gun and dusts off me knuckles which be draggin on da ground lately.

Please esplain it to me slowly so me undrestand... Whys it be gittin' warm? Me likes it dat way.
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So, Mr. smart ass, know it all, scientific master, what can the human race do to make the world cooler?
  1. It's not about "making the world cooler" or some other calamitous rewind to an agrarian existence. Stop pretending that this is what's being suggested.
  2. There are 1001 other reasons we should pay more attention to reducing our impact on the planet. Stop using "global warning" and this demonization of genuine, informed concern ("eco-terrorists") as your excuse to do nothing.
  3. There are 1002 things we individually and collectively can do. You're probably doing some thoughtful stuff already. Great. The harder part is coming up; collective action. It won't hurt, honest.
  4. Wow, not since Galileo has there been such an orchestrated uprising against science. The sun stopped spinning around Earth, yet we have managed to come to terms with it. It's ok to disagree with something, but please do it with better science. Leave the conspiracy stuff to the tinfoil brigade.
  5. Lead, follow, or get outta the way.
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Temperature and CO2 go up and they go down, except...



I think the earth's thermostat is being messed with. But whom? Aliens? Al Gore?
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With the increase in Co2 as it passes me by to join it's destination on high i'm getting short on breathe, no more tours to the Andes as oxygen is getting even more scarce than before, can't swim because the water's PH is so high it's dissolving the coral.....

What a crock of crap.......You people need to go sailing!
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What a crock of crap.......You people need to go sailing!
I do sail, but some folks are spoiling the playground.
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The worst pollution i see is friggin plastic bags, like ghosts on the move the Med is swamped with them.

I returned to Qld (Australia) at xmas and was so impressed to see families walking the beach , kid's and dogs in tow picking up all things made of plastic or rubber.

That's being pro-active, that's doing something about where we sail!

The majority of those plastic items come from boats other than disgusting countries whom dump there trash from barges at sea....

I have done work for the 'Algalita Foundation' now there's some people who put the effort in! Good on you Charlie!!!!!!
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