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Old 02-01-2013, 18:53   #271
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I think he is saying that you have already "hung" this guy without knowing all the facts..He thinks you are biased and that you have judged a book by its cover ...I think, he thinks that you walked into the court room with a verdict of guilty just from his looks and some comments from CF...I think thats what he is saying..
Just because folks from the internet don't spout the same views publically in person when in a courtroom doesn't mean they don't actually hold exactly the same views when sitting on Juries .....and possibly some even tone down their views on the Internet .
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Just because folks from the internet don't spout the same views publically in person when in a courtroom doesn't mean they don't actually hold exactly the same views when sitting on Juries .....and possibly some even tone down their views on the Internet .
I was on jury duty once and the fellow on trial was a minority fellow and the, '3 stricks and your out 'provison applied to this fellow,one of the potental jurors was called up and said he wanted nothing to do with "civic duty"... The judge said that it wasnt an excuse,the fellow stood their for a while and then said "I dont like minority folks", he said that he "did like crack"! The judge told him to sit down... He was there for four more days and then was told he wouldnt be needed...Another person(a minority),a nurse told the judge that she was taking care of a lady that really needed her,the judge excused her,you could cut the air around that bigot with a knife!...
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I was on jury duty once and the fellow on trial was a minority fellow and the, '3 stricks and your out 'provison applied to this fellow,one of the potental jurors was called up and said he wanted nothing to do with "civic duty"... The judge said that it wasnt an excuse,the fellow stood their for a while and then said "I dont like minority folks", he said that he "did like crack"! The judge told him to sit down... He was there for four more days and then was told he wouldnt be needed...Another person(a minority),a nurse told the judge that she was taking care of a lady that really needed her,the judge excused her,you could cut the air around that bigot with a knife!...
DONT OFFEND THE JUDGE OR YOU WILL BE ON THE JURY. reminds me of a case back in the 90s on paradise island, bahamas. the lawyer claimed the DNA Evidence was planted and the accused man walked free from 2 murder/rape charges.well i suppose it should read rape/murder charges. anyhow both victims families were outraged but police corruption was considered the norm same as the OJ case and the planting of evidence. However it sounds to me like the accused in ST.LUCIA killed a robber that is family of the cops. Very sad and had to prevent.No money for lawyer in St. Lucia means bye-bye and to jail you go. DFS {dead fckn serious} always keep a legal fund elsewhere to pad OFF these corrupt cops.And usually once the case goes to press the cops can not get padded. Lift anchor and BUZZ off.I dont claim any great experiance but have witnessed some deeds done dirt cheap. cheers
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I was on jury duty once and the fellow on trial was a minority fellow and the, '3 stricks and your out 'provison applied to this fellow,one of the potental jurors was called up and said he wanted nothing to do with "civic duty"... The judge said that it wasnt an excuse,the fellow stood their for a while and then said "I dont like minority folks", he said that he "did like crack"! The judge told him to sit down... He was there for four more days and then was told he wouldnt be needed...Another person(a minority),a nurse told the judge that she was taking care of a lady that really needed her,the judge excused her,you could cut the air around that bigot with a knife!...
That just goes to show that some (?!) potential Jury Members are not very bright! - IMO a bit of subtly would have got the desired result. "I have no problem with black people - as I do understand that they think and act differently than "us" and therefore I have no problem with making allowances for things that they simply cannot help doing".....said in a helpful way .
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However it sounds to me like the accused in ST.LUCIA killed a robber
Killing someone will land you with a day ( or two) in court virtually in any jurisdiction,

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And usually once the case goes to press the cops can not get padded. Lift anchor and BUZZ off.I dont claim any great experiance but have witnessed some deeds done dirt cheap. cheers
Basic rule is to get your bung in as early as possible - the earlier the cheaper. Once something actually gets into the system then harder and more expensive to extricate oneself from (more people involved), if even possible........gotta remember that a foreign scalp now and again is an easy way to demonstrate both how efficient a person / dept / system is - as well as not being corrupt!

Once things go firmly into a system will likely be as much about connections as it is about cash - even if also requires the latter! Of course if you already have those sort of connections then likely you won't be in the system in the first place . and they cost to acquire at short notice, and not simple to find good ones - as will be plenty of "rainmakers" around willing to sell the desperate a solution, who you gonna complain to about a bung that didn't work?!).

Of course not always clear that something is fixable with a bung (and no point in handing out cash willy nilly!) and some folks will get offended (remember even if usual practice it is still a(nother) crime!)....start by asking about whether can pay a fine "to save paperwork" and just see where the conversation goes from there........

....oh, and just because someone speaks the same lingo as you don't make them automatically your freind when a sniff of money is around - and that includes folks with same passport as you.
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After watching the guy's video, I'm positive that Law Enforcement has had their eye on him for some time just waiting for a reason, and now, he's given them one. From his appearance (somewhere between Waterworld and Pirate ship), it's very understanding. I really can't figure out why his situation is being discussed on this cruiser's forum... there's no way this guy is a typical cruiser.

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I got some comments from local sources in St Lucia, stating very different versions from what has been given above.
It is not the right place here to give way to rumors, and I won't give unverified details : so far the only reported information on this thread was what was alleged by Sommer's relatives and briefly by local authorities.
A trial (or whatever public procedure) on this case is planned to occur next January 18th. I think it is better to retain from speculation until this day, it is very likely that new facts will be exposed.
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I got some comments from local sources in St Lucia, stating very different versions from what has been given above.
It is not the right place here to give way to rumors, and I won't give unverified details : so far the only reported information on this thread was what was alleged by Sommer's relatives and briefly by local authorities.
A trial (or whatever public procedure) on this case is planned to occur next January 18th. I think it is better to retain from speculation until this day, it is very likely that new facts will be exposed.
That is what this thread (and oh-so-many others) is all about.

That is what is expert around here.

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We haven't condemmed the man. We simply made an observation and left the conclusion open. If you don't think your appearance affects the way you are treated then you live in another world.
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I got some comments from local sources in St Lucia, stating very different versions from what has been given above.
It is not the right place here to give way to rumors, and I won't give unverified details : so far the only reported information on this thread was what was alleged by Sommer's relatives and briefly by local authorities.
A trial (or whatever public procedure) on this case is planned to occur next January 18th. I think it is better to retain from speculation until this day, it is very likely that new facts will be exposed.
Say what?

You post that you have information that hasn't been posted here, but you aren't going to tell us! Are you trying to f**k with us or are you sworn to secretly as a witness or something?
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Say what?

You post that you have information that hasn't been posted here, but you aren't going to tell us! Are you trying to f**k with us or are you sworn to secretly as a witness or something?
I too thought the same

...stated that there was contrary information, but he wont tell what.....lol
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I got some comments from local sources in St Lucia, stating very different versions from what has been given above.
It is not the right place here to give way to rumors, and I won't give unverified details : so far the only reported information on this thread was what was alleged by Sommer's relatives and briefly by local authorities.
A trial (or whatever public procedure) on this case is planned to occur next January 18th. I think it is better to retain from speculation until this day, it is very likely that new facts will be exposed.
Come on spill the beans man! What could it hurt? The outcome of this trial will be decided in court-if it hasn't already been decided behind the scenes.
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I'm confused which are the rumours, the stuff on here or this new secret stuff?

Dispel away, it will be interesting......
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